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Re: Ask HN: Any active COBOL devs here? What are you working on?

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I've had a bunch of recent projects reverse-engineering old COBOL code, in financial services. Mostly to figure out the best way to replace the old systems with something newer, so not really as a "COBOL dev", though.

Anything in particular you're replacing them with generally?

I heard a story about replacing COBOL with JavaScript ... and my skin still crawls thinking about it.

Re: Ask HN: Any active COBOL devs here? What are you working on?

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I met a dev who's mom had been working on legacy banking systems her whole career. She had started in the eighties and she still did some urgent jobs at a crazy rate despite officially having retired.

My mother used to teach Cobol back in the 80’s in Brazil but later she transitioned into management and haven’t touched a line of code for more than 30 years, she can’t even speak english wtf

Re: Ask HN: Any active COBOL devs here? What are you working on?

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post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

HN is a place where everyone is, so it's reasonable to assume that some Cobol devs may also lurk here.

Everyone except most developers I know.

This is oddly true in my experience. I ask people where they get their information from and the channels are generally a lot more sparse than topics posted to HN.

If I were to venture to guess: I'd say "most developers" seek work-life balance and aren't interested in reading long-form articles on how to do X or Y when they are off the clock.

Re: Ask HN: Any active COBOL devs here? What are you working on?

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post #20

Met one close to retirement who worked on a ERP system in the food processing industry. Nightly batch jobs would trigger orders from their suppliers, customer service would enter new orders. Two SAP migrations already failed, costing the company millions. All company process knowledge was in code, database fields have been repurposed (but no renamed, too much work), feature development stop long time ago. In parallel…

I grew to like migration projects like that.

Currently working on migration of 30yo ERP without tests in Progress to Kotlin+PostgreSQL.

AI agents don’t care which code to read or convert into tests. They just need an automated feedback loop and some human oversight.

Re: Ask HN: Any active COBOL devs here? What are you working on?

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post #17
post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

HN is a place where everyone is, so it's reasonable to assume that some Cobol devs may also lurk here.

I am here; so I can attest to HN being a place for everyone.

Perl devs too. There are literally dozens of us!

Re: Ask HN: Any active COBOL devs here? What are you working on?

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post #10

What I'm wondering: Are the salaries high? Not just because you've been employed at the job for a long time with regular raises, but because it's hard to find developers.

No the salaries aren't high. They are typically lower than other software engineer salaries. There are a large number of contractors from Indian consulting companies with "experience in cobol" to make run of the mill cobol cheap enough. The very high salaries you hear about sometimes are always for VERY specific mainframes that are extremely old with a lot of quirks, and are usually being paid to consultants.

> There are a large number of contractors from Indian consulting companies with "experience in cobol" to make run of the mill cobol cheap enough.

Seeing the horrible performance from Indian offshore firms with modern languages I cannot imagine the mess they make with legacy languages like Cobol. Or is it the other way around?

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