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Ask HN: Is HN slowly starting to experience enshitification?

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Re: Ask HN: Is HN slowly starting to experience enshitification?

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post #16

Folks feel strongly about many social, cultural and political topics. It's a moment and a trend, and certainly not specific to HN. Does it make HN slightly less interesting sometimes? Maybe. But then, is there a forum entirely immune to it? Not really.

Yep. Either you radically gatekeep your community to ensure it only allows people discussing topics you find interesting and watch it die as newbies get turned away while stalwarts leave for whatever reason, or you welcome "new blood" with their own interests which are not always completely aligned with your own and watch the community change around you. And it's not just forums, it happened in usenet, it happens in…

I’m super interested in this topic of “how to keep a community alive”, (1) introducing new blood - with the risk mentioned above - at a regular pace, and (2) keeping existing members as alive/active/connected as possible.

Would anyone here have good reads linked to that topic, I’m interested to share - writing this, I just realize I should’ve asked my friend Copilot too.

One interesting framework linked to this I found a couple years ago and still refer too frequently is the Orbit model (https://orbit-model.vercel.app)

Re: Ask HN: Is HN slowly starting to experience enshitification?

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Folks feel strongly about many social, cultural and political topics. It's a moment and a trend, and certainly not specific to HN. Does it make HN slightly less interesting sometimes? Maybe. But then, is there a forum entirely immune to it? Not really.

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Re: Ask HN: Is HN slowly starting to experience enshitification?

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post #3

I truly do not ask this to be pedantic or snarky, but “enshitification” is a very specific type of platform decay related to business models. How does that apply here?

While this post was appropriately flagged for violating the guidelines, many other ideological posts that go against those guidelines remain unflagged. Since moderation is part of their service, I think it still aligns with the definition. However, you are also correct. I didn't mean it strictly in the exact sense but was also referring to a general decline, regardless of their business model.

Re: Ask HN: Is HN slowly starting to experience enshitification?

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post #7

Every time I read the word "enshittification" I feel a little shittier, and the frequency with which I see it here is increasing, so yes. But really, it's a semi-noob illusion, as old as the hills.

I feel that too, because people will use it any way they like without understanding what it means

Re: Ask HN: Is HN slowly starting to experience enshitification?

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Being a hacker and not wanting to deal with politics is like being a fish not wanting to deal with water.

Yes, because ...all hackers from all over the globe will ...uhm, suffocate and die if they don't want to deal with political drama in the US.

Re: Ask HN: Is HN slowly starting to experience enshitification?

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post #29

Being a hacker and not wanting to deal with politics is like being a fish not wanting to deal with water.

Yes, because ...all hackers from all over the globe will ...uhm, suffocate and die if they don't want to deal with political drama in the US.

I think GP meant not realizing that one is unavoidably immersed in politics.
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