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Ask HN: Hackathons feel fake now

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Re: Ask HN: Hackathons feel fake now

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These have felt fake to me since college, so, for 20 years or so? They’re so far from the environment where I’m most productive and creative that I’ve always considered them to be performative nonsense at best.

I feel like hackathons are super polarizing. Some people love them, some people hate them. I don't get the appeal, either, but I have friends who love them.

Re: Ask HN: Hackathons feel fake now

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Could never wrap my head around the idea. They're often framed by employers as perks: Look, we're giving you the chance to come and work overtime for free, isn't that great?

I’ve never heard of a company encouraging their employees to participate in a hackathon that they sponsored. Are you thinking of internal “hack week” periods where employees get a chance to build something “for fun” at work?

Lucky you, I've experienced several variations on that theme in my own career.

Often sold as team building and way to level up in competence/skill, with an undertone of proving your loyalty to the company.

Re: Ask HN: Hackathons feel fake now

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My company does a lot of hackathons and we support a decent number of hackathons in quantum computing throughout the world. And I have had the same sentiment in the quantum computing space as well and thinking through the reason for it, my sense is that 24-48 hours is not enough time to build something meaningful. This is not to say that absolutely cannot be done, but the chances of something cool being made are generally low. My guess is that this idea might hold in general, anything that can be built really quickly tends not to be too impressive and all impressive things tend to take longer. I have gotten to a point where, if I see something impressive, I have this nagging feeling, Was this completed here? or were you working on this for a decent amount of time and just took this opportunity to showcase it?

Re: Ask HN: Hackathons feel fake now

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I've seen some cool hackathons run internally at some companies I've worked for. It was during work hours (paid) and managers set time aside for people who wanted to participate. Often it was something like, "we have all this data, what could we use it for?" and teams would often come up with some pretty cool projects based on the data.

At the end there was a big presentation that anyone in the company could attend and each team would present what they came up with.

Some of them eventually became products directly, or at least set the groundwork for future products.

So in a sense it was basically just "work", but it was driven by the individual contributors and not a top-down directive.

Re: Ask HN: Hackathons feel fake now

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I’m not really sure they ever made much sense. Going back 15-20 years ago, they were always poorly executed and was not for the devs.

The only exception was one I went to put on by Atlassian a long time ago which was a hardcore geek-vs-geek live coding night with lots of drinking and real prizes. This was before they went public and didn’t care about offending.

Re: Ask HN: Hackathons feel fake now

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Recently on HN: "The Gang Has A Mid-Life Crisis" https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43860696 Hackathons are fun and productive when what you need to do/learn — something you haven't already done/learned — can be done/learned in a weekend. Once you graduate, there's a lot fewer of those things lying around. Quote: > We need look no further than the "hackathon," that sad facsimile of the days when we were all learnin…

In my experience, hackathons in larger companies are valves that sometimes release the pressure of things that people wanted to do, had been planning to do and thinking through for months before the hackathon was even scheduled, and finally are allowed to implement. These are binge-programming days/nights when the engineers finally don't need to work on tickets, and don't have to follow the due processes.

Corollary: if your company promises to have a hackathon one day, it's best to get prepared and have a bunch of good ideas well ahead of time.

Re: Ask HN: Hackathons feel fake now

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Yeah, hackathons were always shit. They're an apparatus for getting essentially free labor out of unsuspecting and gullible nerds.

Could never wrap my head around the idea. They're often framed by employers as perks: Look, we're giving you the chance to come and work overtime for free, isn't that great?

It’s not free, you get pizzas!

A recent boss mandated that people come on weekends. Everyone’s contract said you have to, except mine. I pointed out to the boss that even though he can ask people to work on weekends, there are laws that prevent how much (you need more and longer breaks, and you can’t do it every weekend.)

He got cold feet and cancelled the event. But he forgot to tell people. The most junior developer had spent 2+ hours on the commute.

These are not real hackathons.

They’re corporate knockoffs.

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