The majority of Americans do not care and do not really want US tech to be global. The majority of Americans are ashamed of US soft power and the way we meddle with other countries constantly. While loss of dollar hegemony will have economic implicatiosn for the US, American's just don't really care about having dollar hegemony. We don't care about any of these things or what Europe is doing.
Ask HN: Do US tech firms realize the backlash growing in Europe?
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#22I was just thinking today how long will it be until Windows is turned into a weapon. I know I know, but its not really paranoid to think that anymore is it? Imagine the chaos around the world caused by Windows machines simultaneously reformatting hard disks except in America.
Windows is already a weapon.
Re: Ask HN: Do US tech firms realize the backlash growing in Europe?
#23Good headlines for sure, but i wonder: Suppose the war ends. Will the Europeans keep boycotting the cheap russian gas? Tarriffs are a nuisance to the US - the US doesn't export much.
Did you mean the opposite?
US to EU gas trade is insane right now due to pricing and a 20% tariff won't change anything.
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#24What did the US do to Europe this week? Are you referring to Trump withdrawing support for Ukraine?
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#25I was just thinking today how long will it be until Windows is turned into a weapon. I know I know, but its not really paranoid to think that anymore is it? Imagine the chaos around the world caused by Windows machines simultaneously reformatting hard disks except in America.
This is a strange statement given it's the UK, not the US, that currently poses the greatest threat to OS weaponization via what they're trying to make Apple do with backdoor access.
Re: Ask HN: Do US tech firms realize the backlash growing in Europe?
#26Tesla FSD wont be authorized in Europe, this will be one direct consequence of all of that. In addition, tariffs will be put on cars coming from the US. Plus, US is now recognized as a very unreliable partner in terms of defense, that Europe regrets buying their systems.
Will this really happen? Or will the US prevent Europe from doing that by saying “then defend from Russia all by yourself?”
The US has basically said that. It doesn't matter though, because at the end of the day, dramatic foreign policy shifts and realignments only make the U.S. even less attractive as an ally and a partner.
Decades of relationships are being strained in the attempt of mending ties with a state that never really did much to advance America's interests in the modern era. And it could all be completely undone in four years. The whip lash of back and forth, radical shifts in policy, are as damaging as the acts that directly alienate America's global partners.
Re: Ask HN: Do US tech firms realize the backlash growing in Europe?
#27Tesla FSD wont be authorized in Europe, this will be one direct consequence of all of that. In addition, tariffs will be put on cars coming from the US. Plus, US is now recognized as a very unreliable partner in terms of defense, that Europe regrets buying their systems.
Given the constant promises and slow rate of improvement, there's a high chance Tesla's FSD was never going to be authorised in Europe even absent this.
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#28Is the backlash worse than the Bush invasion of Iraq in 2003? Is it worse than the first Trump administration? Genuinely curious. The reality is the 50% of voters who DID not vote for the current president are just as shell shocked as the Europeans. Only we KNEW it was coming.
Re: Ask HN: Do US tech firms realize the backlash growing in Europe?
#29Tesla FSD wont be authorized in Europe, this will be one direct consequence of all of that. In addition, tariffs will be put on cars coming from the US. Plus, US is now recognized as a very unreliable partner in terms of defense, that Europe regrets buying their systems.
Will this really happen? Or will the US prevent Europe from doing that by saying “then defend from Russia all by yourself?”
Bidens aid undoubtedly moved the needle, but that’s over and from what I’ve heard weapon deliveries have already stopped.
So I guess my question is aren’t Europe already by themselves?
Re: Ask HN: Do US tech firms realize the backlash growing in Europe?
#30Good information, and I see no sign it has been noticed in the US (which is why your report is good info).
The first question is how broad is this shift; is it really everywhere on the street or just in the "early adopters"?
The next question is how durable is the trend?
The things I've noticed here are reports of AfD rapidly losing 5% in the polls after Vance spoke in Munich, and a French right-wing leader cancelling his planned speech at CPAC after Bannon did a Nazi salute in his talk. When the US wannabe-Nazis are too toxic for European pro-fascists, that is saying something...