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Look away from what? Musk and his antics show up in threads regularly. But it can't be on the front page 5 times a day. There's an article discussing current admin shenanigans on the fp right now.
In your previous post you tried to deny and minimize the problem. That kind of apathy is exactly what you can't afford to look away from.
Ask HN: What's with flagging articles criticizing Musk?
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Does anyone have anything new to say on these topics? We're going around and around in circles. Is there a substantial discussion? Do we learn anything new?
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I would wager that, "Everyone who disagrees with me is a fascist" isn't something new to this site or online discussions generally. To the contrary it is a tired trope. It does not inform us or stimulate a new discussion.
Therefore, before making such comparisons, the accusers should have substantial evidence. The burden of proof should be much higher than your article's, "Appears to make gesture".
Re: Ask HN: What's with flagging articles criticizing Musk?
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In your previous post you tried to deny and minimize the problem. That kind of apathy is exactly what you can't afford to look away from.
Can you link me the post where I did that because I don't even know what 'problem' you're referring to.
The problem is that so much of the tech industry is now precisely about politics and power. The problem is that so much of the tech industry it is now explicitly and directly connected to it.
If Hacker News doesn't have the wherewithal to face up the these realities then it really should think about a name change.
Maybe "Happy Fun News" or something.
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Most things are in some way connected to politics and power and they're regularly discussed here, along with their political implications and power dynamics. That still doesn't mean every news story is worth discussing here given that it's a forum with the explicit goal of not discussing most news stories.
But it's not in "some" way connected. It's now explicitly and directly connected. You can't look the other way anymore.
Politics may be destroying a large number of things right now; I don't want it to destroy this site too.
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Can you link me the post where I did that because I don't even know what 'problem' you're referring to.
This one: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42907961 The problem is that so much of the tech industry is now precisely about politics and power. The problem is that so much of the tech industry it is now explicitly and directly connected to it. If Hacker News doesn't have the wherewithal to face up the these realities then it really should think about a name change. Maybe "Happy Fun News" or something.
There's links to literally years of explanations of this stuff in my other comment https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42907475
Re: Ask HN: What's with flagging articles criticizing Musk?
#26Hacker News Guidelines https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html "Off-Topic: Most stories about politics, or crime, or sports, or celebrities, unless they're evidence of some interesting new phenomenon. Videos of pratfalls or disasters, or cute animal pictures. If they'd cover it on TV news, it's probably off-topic."
Re: Ask HN: What's with flagging articles criticizing Musk?
#27Hacker News Guidelines https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html "Off-Topic: Most stories about politics, or crime, or sports, or celebrities, unless they're evidence of some interesting new phenomenon. Videos of pratfalls or disasters, or cute animal pictures. If they'd cover it on TV news, it's probably off-topic."
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But it's not in "some" way connected. It's now explicitly and directly connected. You can't look the other way anymore.
Maybe so. But I still don't have to talk about it here . There's lots of places to talk about politics, and Musk, ad nauseum. HN is supposed to be about something else. Politics may be destroying a large number of things right now; I don't want it to destroy this site too.
Building any kind of ethical framework for hardware and software engineering necessitates looking at the ugly side.
If Hacker News is genuinely not up to that then it's falling short.
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Cutting the size and scope of government programs and regulations has more in common with the founding principles of individualist liberalism than collectivist authoritarian ideologies like National Socialism. I would wager that, "Everyone who disagrees with me is a fascist" isn't something new to this site or online discussions generally. To the contrary it is a tired trope. It does not inform us or stimulate a new…
But someone connected to the American government flipping two fascist salutes at the inauguration of the new president sure does.