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Ask HN: Is it possible to make FAANG salaries without working there?

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Re: Ask HN: Is it possible to make FAANG salaries without working there?

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post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I used to work at such a place. Contracts with places large as BAML and other places you e never heard of… Unless you’re the low level wizard you’re just going to make an industry standard salary, maybe a bump but nothing special.

BAML?

Possibly BofA Securities formerly Bank of America Merrill Lynch (BAML)

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/BofA_Securities

Re: Ask HN: Is it possible to make FAANG salaries without working there?

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post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I used to work at such a place. Contracts with places large as BAML and other places you e never heard of… Unless you’re the low level wizard you’re just going to make an industry standard salary, maybe a bump but nothing special.

BAML?

Now BofA

Re: Ask HN: Is it possible to make FAANG salaries without working there?

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post #9

Look for organizations that have very large amounts of money, where software is critical to them continuing to make that money (or where their money was given to them to create something that in turn someone believes will be worth large amounts of money). Generally follow the money.

> "..where software is critical to them continuing to make that money.." Having worked in the finance world, where the wheels are made out of software at this point, I never got the feeling that the old guard that still ran the place fully understood how crucial software was to their business, and how much it saved in labour costs. The software department was generally seen as a cost center, with the salaries and out…

Great way to grow new guard buisnesses.

Re: Ask HN: Is it possible to make FAANG salaries without working there?

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post #4

Are you counting the $1m in options as compensation? If so, plenty of startups will offer you that.

Sure they can offer it on paper, unsure if it'll be worth anything in four year or even four months.

At least with FAANG you know barring cataclysmic events It'll be valuable down the road.

Re: Ask HN: Is it possible to make FAANG salaries without working there?

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Don’t ignore the other aspects of compensation: raises, bonuses, vacation days, health insurance, etc. It’s not just salary.

All of these are very significant at a FAANG and generally not as great elsewhere.

Re: Ask HN: Is it possible to make FAANG salaries without working there?

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Story time: About 6 years ago a close friend with years of software experience was bored with her job and decided to look for another. She received plenty of solid job offers, all with excellent pay, but one of them stood out. It was a company that made back-end software for credit unions. Not sexy work, but what stood out to my friend was the how genuine the people she talked to during the "interview" process seemed. They asked about her life experience more than her work experience. When she met with execs they never even talked about actual work. She said they were very upfront about the fact that they couldn't compete with "the big guys" on pay, but they take their supportive company culture very seriously - the average length-of-employment was over 10 years. She said they offered her access to the office, where she could freely "interview" anyone rando she wanted about the company. She did, and everyone she talked to raved about working there.

She decided to accept the offer from the not-sexy credit union software company, knowing she could've earned at least 30% more elsewhere. She kept using the word "genuine" when she talked about the people she met during the "interview" process, and that's what attracted her.

Well, about 2 years after accepting the offer she was diagnosed with breast cancer. (tl;dr = dealing with cancer sucks. constant doctor appointments. chemo treatments. pain. vomiting. life/death uncertainty. and so on.) She said her company was unbelievable during her cancer battle. She didn't work for almost a year (her bosses wouldn't let her), and they never even talked about sick leave or FMLA or disability - nothing. They just kept her on the payroll like normal, for almost a full year! She said her bosses would call all the time, asking about the latest test results, how she was feeling, did she need anything, etc. And, to her surprise, after about 2 years of treatments, almost the entire company showed up to watch her ring the bell.

Moral of the story: Money is great, but it's really not everything.

Re: Ask HN: Is it possible to make FAANG salaries without working there?

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Using your own example, every "avg startup" engineer who is overemployed with only two gigs is matching FAANG money.

Show me the average startup engineer who has the time to be overemployed please...

I met a dude at a bachelor party who was working for three startups simultaneously.

I don’t recommend it.

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