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Ask HN: Anyone left their job because of RTO?

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Re: Ask HN: Anyone left their job because of RTO?

#21
I left my job because they enforced WFH.

It went like this, paraphrased:

Hi boss, I don't think that avoiding any form of social contact is good for me. Since it's clear that this is now the new expected working environment, I am resigning effective immediately. Toodles!

I guess it'd be a bit like that but the other way around.

Re: Ask HN: Anyone left their job because of RTO?

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I left my job because they enforced WFH. It went like this, paraphrased: Hi boss, I don't think that avoiding any form of social contact is good for me. Since it's clear that this is now the new expected working environment, I am resigning effective immediately. Toodles! I guess it'd be a bit like that but the other way around.

This captures exactly the split I've seen at my office. If you have a social life outside of work you are probably strongly WFH because why would you spend your social energy with coworkers when you have friends you like and chose.

But for people for whom work is life and what little social interaction they get is at work you're strongly RTO because that's your lifeline.

And our current CEO moved states for this job and he's lonely as fuck so our office went RTO.

Re: Ask HN: Anyone left their job because of RTO?

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post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Tin foil hat says commercial real estate overlords need warm bodies in their empty buildings to provide foot traffic for lease signs go down. The weird thing is, I’m sure many people here would likely take a pay cut over RTO. If only we used this monumental opportunity to rethink how we need to collaborate and design cities to support or even embrace remote work models. Instead, back to concrete jungles and mind numb…

I definitely think there’s merit to the conspiracy theory that people who own shares in companies are the same general groups of people as those who own commercial real estate interests. Or there’s the tried and true explanation that it’s just micromanagers who want play power games with their employees. The senior leadership team member can’t really conceptualize a world where an individual doesn’t sacrifice their e…

> Or there’s the tried and true explanation that it’s just micromanagers who want play power games with their employees.

Everyone thinks they are the good employee that doesn’t need to be managed thank you very much. Yet every manager has seen employees that produce very little if they aren’t constantly managed.

And every manager thinks they’re a good manager, too!

Re: Ask HN: Anyone left their job because of RTO?

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post #24

I left my job because they enforced WFH. It went like this, paraphrased: Hi boss, I don't think that avoiding any form of social contact is good for me. Since it's clear that this is now the new expected working environment, I am resigning effective immediately. Toodles! I guess it'd be a bit like that but the other way around.

This captures exactly the split I've seen at my office. If you have a social life outside of work you are probably strongly WFH because why would you spend your social energy with coworkers when you have friends you like and chose. But for people for whom work is life and what little social interaction they get is at work you're strongly RTO because that's your lifeline. And our current CEO moved states for this job…

For me it's actually been the opposite.

I enjoyed the social interaction in my job and it didn't really affect my ability to see friends and family after work or at the weekend.

Since WFH became commonplace most of them have moved out of the city so it's actually harder now because my friends live all over the place.

It also feels like people are less likely to go out in general now.

My comment was more about the fact that I just think that social distancing was a load of bollocks and that we could have just gone to work with some people WFH as before and gotten the same end result.

Re: Ask HN: Anyone left their job because of RTO?

#27

Yeah, I got a job as a dev at one of the UK's high street fashion retailers during the pandemic. Got a load of praise from directors n everyone else for implementing a proper development workflow within the department, as a junior. After the pandemic we all got an RTO mandate and I found a new, fully remote, job within a month. The director of the department I was in at the original employer told me she would not be…

#3 must be fun for tax purposes

1&2 are non-negotiable

Re: Ask HN: Anyone left their job because of RTO?

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Yeah, I got a job as a dev at one of the UK's high street fashion retailers during the pandemic. Got a load of praise from directors n everyone else for implementing a proper development workflow within the department, as a junior. After the pandemic we all got an RTO mandate and I found a new, fully remote, job within a month. The director of the department I was in at the original employer told me she would not be…

I had one of those “don’t ask don’t tell” arrangements. Works fine until the top CEO mandates more and more and the middle manager can’t “hide” you any longer. (Personal experience)

Probably a good move on your part

Re: Ask HN: Anyone left their job because of RTO?

#29
RTO announcement paired with sweeping comp cuts, hot on the third round of layoffs. It was a rough market, but I held out for a company that prioritized remote work and I’m glad I did. Linux has been fully remote for 30+ years; there is no way you’re going to convince me CRUD work can’t be done well remotely.

Re: Ask HN: Anyone left their job because of RTO?

#30
Most skilled staff will not be returning to the office, and do not require micromanagement.

Yet we did just fire one guy for claiming he was still active on a project that was put into maintenance mode 6 months ago. Some people are not mature enough to handle managing their own time.

Personally, the office space was a cost only second to labor, and people would have to be epically unproductive to offset the operational savings. =)

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