Now, the provider trying to bundle a router is another question… but the ONT isn’t something I’d like to buy. And on my invoice, it isn’t even listed as something that I rent.
Ask HN: Why does it seem hard to buy an ONT for fiber?
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#22Re: Ask HN: Why does it seem hard to buy an ONT for fiber?
#23I'm in Poland. When I had fiber installed I asked the provider if they could install an ONT. They balked a bit but eventually relented. They provided their own ONT at no extra cost. Orange is the provider, in case anyone is interested. It's up to the discretion of the installer. I think being able to speak in technical terms and provide a decent argument convinced the installer. I got a feeling that they don't genera…
I'm not sure if they could be inserted into own equipment, though.
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#24Re: Ask HN: Why does it seem hard to buy an ONT for fiber?
#25The ONT's job is to translate from (typically) Ethernet to the optical fibre, and nothing else. In networking terms its "Level 1"; concerned only with moving bits from one end to the other. Most ISPs will provide an ONT which does that and nothing else, and then a regular router/firewall that plugs in to the ONT via Ethernet. Your security barrier is the firewall in the router, plus whatever encryption you apply to c…
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#27They already have your name, address, and payment info.
If you are concerned about them seeing your traffic, well they are going to see that regardless if you use their modem or your own. They own the public IP you get assigned, all traffic is going through their route tables and equipment and is logged before it hits your home router.
Use DNS over https (not the ISPs DNS), or a VPN if you want to hide your activity from them.
Your own modem gains you little in privacy. At worst they could be tracking a count of your devices and their MAC address, but they probably don’t care to collect that.
Re: Ask HN: Why does it seem hard to buy an ONT for fiber?
#28The modem the ISP provides has hard coded settings to limit connection counts as well as rate limit and probably other things. There is a reason they sell full duplex gigabit for so cheap, there are gremlins in the hardware.
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#29Re: Ask HN: Why does it seem hard to buy an ONT for fiber?
#30Get a business line and you can do whatever you want after the demarc. Unifi probably sells a decent prosumer ONT.