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Ask HN: Any felons successfully found IT work post-release?

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Re: Ask HN: Any felons successfully found IT work post-release?

#21

Thank you all for your perspective, and suggestions. I was on a bad psychedelic trip, accompanied with some other issues at the time and ending up making threatening statements to a very high level official, but no battery occurred whatsoever. Thank goodness, or I would probably not be writing this message

You could also consider working as a consultant or external pen tester. When we hired our pen testers, we did not run background checks on them, not least because they have no access to customer data so it's much less of a concern.

Re: Ask HN: Any felons successfully found IT work post-release?

#22
Have you worked with social service agencies which specialize in such employment?

In my metropolitan area there is a significant network of employment agencies. Many are faith-based and many work with the homeless and disadvantaged, and it is not unusual for some to cater to ex-cons and felons. They will not advertise this stuff publicly, so you will need to get referrals and inside information on how to find them, but once you hook up with such an agency, your chances should improve drastically. Many of them will counsel you on how to approach applications and interviews, they will broker connections with employers who can overlook such a record, and they really know the communities they work in.

Do not discount the power of your State agencies to help you as well, such as through Vocational Rehab programs.

One drawback I've found to working with these folks is that they're geared to low-income jobs, manual labor, call centers and food service type stuff. They're not well-equipped to handle professionals in industries like IT, but you can certainly help them adapt, and recognize that we're worthy of assistance too. The more professional ex-felons who approach them, the better equipped they will be to serve people like us.

26 years ago, they parked me in a homeless shelter with a newspaper and a public phone to apply for jobs. Not even a typewriter to create a résumé. It was a joke. When I was finally motivated and qualified, I found the right agencies and the right assistance, and it made all the difference in the world.

Re: Ask HN: Any felons successfully found IT work post-release?

#23
I don't have much helpful to add, but I had a colleague who had a bad night, acquired some felony charges for a firearm-related assault and they got fired/blacklisted for a few years.

Subsequently, they did IT contract work behind the scenes with small contractors, kept in touch with his professional network, was super helpful to the rest of us, and after serious concerns and much debate, got back into his prior career with a new employer.

I don't even know how, because normally a felony would be a no-hire, but he pulled it off, likely because he was so helpful and giving to his professional network throughout this mess.

Re: Ask HN: Any felons successfully found IT work post-release?

#24

it's been 14 years since my felony, and every IT job I've had started out good but they looked me up. I got a unique name I can't change right now. so they always find me, I've been hired by billion dollar companies for technical member of staff positions paying 165k, only to be fired the day before I was supposed to start. I can't do it anymore. I can't try anymore. I've tried for years and years and I can't handle…

Move abroad. Unless you apply for a security-related position or in childcare/education, it is not common outside the US to demand a background check. In any case, in most countries they need to ask the candidate and do not have the power or right to demand the data for themselves.

Re: Ask HN: Any felons successfully found IT work post-release?

#25

it's been 14 years since my felony, and every IT job I've had started out good but they looked me up. I got a unique name I can't change right now. so they always find me, I've been hired by billion dollar companies for technical member of staff positions paying 165k, only to be fired the day before I was supposed to start. I can't do it anymore. I can't try anymore. I've tried for years and years and I can't handle…

I think being upfront is important. There's a lot of stuff that doesn't need to be said (I've been clean 43 years, and no one ever knew, in my jobs -I just wasn't much fun at the office party), but felonies will always come up; even obscure ones.

HR depts hire these companies that break out the digital proctoscope, and they do things like find your social media accounts. Also, if you piss someone off, they can rat you, and you can be fired with cause.

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> Previously I worked in Information Security as a SecOps Eng, most recently at Tinder. Between lack of recent job experience, and my record, I have been through a series of offer reneges, recruiters ghosting me, or going into HR resume black holes.

I "look good on paper" and recruiters ghost me too.

Re: Ask HN: Any felons successfully found IT work post-release?

#28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Given that urinating in public can result in sex offender charges in some locales, I'm not surprised that you can have non-violent assault charges.

This basically doesn't happen, mostly an urban legend.

I know someone it happened to, so it does definitely happen

Re: Ask HN: Any felons successfully found IT work post-release?

#29
post #21

Thank you all for your perspective, and suggestions. I was on a bad psychedelic trip, accompanied with some other issues at the time and ending up making threatening statements to a very high level official, but no battery occurred whatsoever. Thank goodness, or I would probably not be writing this message

You could also consider working as a consultant or external pen tester. When we hired our pen testers, we did not run background checks on them, not least because they have no access to customer data so it's much less of a concern.

If the people you're paying to find weaknesses in the security system are assuredly never going to find a way to access internal data then how did you conclude you needed a pen tester in the first place? I mean, it's probably the right conclusion but only precisely because they'd find a way to access things they shouldn't be able to.

Re: Ask HN: Any felons successfully found IT work post-release?

#30

it's been 14 years since my felony, and every IT job I've had started out good but they looked me up. I got a unique name I can't change right now. so they always find me, I've been hired by billion dollar companies for technical member of staff positions paying 165k, only to be fired the day before I was supposed to start. I can't do it anymore. I can't try anymore. I've tried for years and years and I can't handle…

Move to another country. Open a LLC and work as a contractor via your firm. Bootstrap a B2B startup, you seem to have valuable skills you can bring to market. There are many solutions but they do require you to make a hard trade off.
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