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Re: Ask HN: Is anyone else bearish on OpenAI?

#21
ChatGPT has already saved me from hours of Googling when I'm trying to find out how to do certain things. It almost feels magical - I don't have to read through half-dozen slightly different variations of what I need to do.

Before ChatGPT, to find the answer to things like "how do I set up Gunicorn to run as a daemon that restarts when it fails" I would have to endure hours of googling, snarky stack-overflow comments that I shouldn't do that, etc., but as a solopreneur without access to a more senior engineer to ask, it's been fantastic. I've been quite skeptical of machine learning/AI claims but I feel like I'm experiencing a genuine case of a technology that's proving to be so much more useful than I had imagined.

Re: Ask HN: Is anyone else bearish on OpenAI?

#22
Doesn’t need to be AGI. I am bullish on the concept of GPT assisted workflows of all kinds.

OpenAI will probably do very well but there is a chance of disruption. They have a moat but also the nature of AI is it is a cloud commodity (like say Lambda functions) where I see a competitor making a cheaper drop in replacement. But to be a threat they need to smash scale and LLMOps etc.

Re: Ask HN: Is anyone else bearish on OpenAI?

#24
The big threat imo is smaller open source models running at the edge, not on expensive GPU clouds. Their lead rn is GIANT MODEL + AZURE GPU CLOUD. Anything that undermines that is trouble, because it is so expensive. For a long time, everyone focused on training costs, but GPU inference at scale is mind-boggling. Current valuations do not seem to take this risk into account.

Re: Ask HN: Is anyone else bearish on OpenAI?

#25
Nope. Learn how to use it in almost everything you do. It’s a game changer.

LLMs aren’t AGI. They’re far it. But they have massive uses for reasoning on available context.

I’ll give you an example. I’m trying to set up some bulk monitoring for api across 200k jvm s. The api documents are horribly out of date. But I get the raw uri on the monitoring tools.

I can just get these uri, send them into chatgpt and ask for a swagger spec - along with a regular expression to match the uri to the swagger api. It figures out the path and query params from absolute paths.

Sure I could try to figure out how to do this programmatically using some graph or tree based algorithm. But chatgpt basically made it possible with a dump Python script.

Of course I may still need a person to fill in these. But just getting a swagger spec done for a thousands of services in an afternoon was awesome.

Re: Ask HN: Is anyone else bearish on OpenAI?

#26
> What am I missing here?

I’m guessing you haven’t actually been using it personally beyond some superficial examples.

Once you use it regularly to solve real world technical problems it’s pretty huge deal and the only people so far that I’ve met who voice ideas similar to yours, just simply haven’t used it beyond asking it questions which it isn’t designed for.

Re: Ask HN: Is anyone else bearish on OpenAI?

#27
Imagine if Google censored your search results because they might be usable by a child or bad actor.

Imagine if they kept doing that despite having your credit card information because you paid for Pro, which more or less proves you're an adult who deserves the presumption of innocence/good-actordom.

Lastly, imagine that you do this for all users despite the fact that it is known to reduce the intelligence of your output.

(I'm bullish on self-run models)

Re: Ask HN: Is anyone else bearish on OpenAI?

#28
Have you actually tried to use it ? I use it everyday and is absolutely amazing -- saves me a lot of time. We've also built automations around it and it saves our company a lot of time. It's already here and in use by many companies for use cases it makes sense...

Re: Ask HN: Is anyone else bearish on OpenAI?

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post #18

OpenAI, at least in my day-day workflow for the last 9+ months has so superseded anything that google ever was to me that I'm having a difficult time comparing the two. I've got a monitor dedicated 100% of the time to ChatGPT, and I interact with it non stop during the flow of technical scenarios and troubleshooting situations that flow into me - working in areas that I have the slimmest of backgrounds in, and shutti…

How do you control for hallucinations?

You use your critical faculties, very important things must be verified from other sources, unit, integration, numerical tests can evaluate code and results.

Sometimes you need to go back and forward a bit, I tell ChatGPT it’s wrong and the error message and then it spits out the correct result, sometimes I need an algorithm tweaked because it has assumed a wrong constraint on the problem, again just explain it clearly and unambiguously and it will make corrections, there’s only been maybe 1/40 problems I couldn’t get a correct answer on after (sometimes a lot!) of back and forwards.

I am not looking for a perfect oracle, I am looking for something to write 80% of the code and then I’ll fix it up. It’s still way faster this way, especially in domains I don’t know, E.g. I just learned CUDA with ChatGPTs help.

It’s not perfect, and neither am I, but it doesn’t have to be perfect to be useful, you can get to millions in revenue through 80% solutions

Re: Ask HN: Is anyone else bearish on OpenAI?

#30

OpenAI, at least in my day-day workflow for the last 9+ months has so superseded anything that google ever was to me that I'm having a difficult time comparing the two. I've got a monitor dedicated 100% of the time to ChatGPT, and I interact with it non stop during the flow of technical scenarios and troubleshooting situations that flow into me - working in areas that I have the slimmest of backgrounds in, and shutti…

This interesting, I've had the opposite experience so far. I tried to do that because if it worked it'd be game changing; but it seems every question I ask it, I get half truths and lies back. Its impossible to figure out what is and isn't true either, because the LLM says everything with such a certainty. I end up having to research everything it says again to figure out what to trust. Sometimes it's good to get a f…

You have such an experience with technical problems?

It’s written at least 20 python scripts with me and almost all of them have been close to perfect almost on first draft.

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