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Re: Ask HN: Why can't I get interviews or offers anymore?

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Your resume reads as if it was written to appeal to an engineer. Write one that appeals to a manager. Talk less about what you did in your previous roles and more about "the business value you provided" in your previous roles. If in doubt, pretend you're your own boss trying to get a raise. What would you say about you to justify it? Specifically, I got my current job (in September) because I was able to tell a story…

>"the business value you provided"

Wouldn't this rely on the assumption that OP is a profit center?

I guess, "this is how much our company convinced the client to pay, and we got it done x% ahead of schedule" is probably the best one can do if they are a cost center.

Re: Ask HN: Why can't I get interviews or offers anymore?

#24
I know developers like to put their head in sand and pretend to the contrary, but credentials do matter. Things like security or cloud certifications and security clearances are extremely valuable when looking for employment.

What has helped me the least is code quality and GitHub projects/portfolio. This has only helped me in the added technical experience and the ability to talk through a variety of scenarios during an interview.

Re: Ask HN: Why can't I get interviews or offers anymore?

#25

I know developers like to put their head in sand and pretend to the contrary, but credentials do matter. Things like security or cloud certifications and security clearances are extremely valuable when looking for employment. What has helped me the least is code quality and GitHub projects/portfolio. This has only helped me in the added technical experience and the ability to talk through a variety of scenarios durin…

> I know developers like to put their head in sand and pretend to the contrary, but credentials do matter. Things like security or cloud certifications and security clearances

Interesting, I've interviewed with and for a number of tech companies and it's never come up. What companies are you seeing who are interested in certs?

Re: Ask HN: Why can't I get interviews or offers anymore?

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Just a couple of advices. Feel free to ignore. It won't harm anyways.

- linkedin profile looks weak. Elaborate on what were the duties in form of showing up your professional achievements. Like how you improved the product with your work. How you increased company revenue. Did this -> it lead to that. This approach shows your real impact (at least a sign of it). "reduced infra cost for 20%", "latency decreased which lead to more registrations", "hired and structured 2 team", etc..

- use recruiters. 99% of time their help will be useless but because there are a lot of them this 1% will cover the rest.

- don't spend your time on no-name-another-job-list-platform. it won't work. approach company recruiters directly, apply via linkein or connect with recruiters there.

- "I can do everything for 60k" might sound like a red flag. Avoid it during the conversation.

- Interview passing is a skill. You need a time and a volume of interviews to train it. Doable.

- don't listen to "oh yeah that's a terrible market I can't get a job as well we gonna die poor" comments. you don't know who is behind the comment. like I don't know who are you btw :)

Market is not that bad. It's totally ok. Approach it as a project. Code, code, code, read, watch related videos on youtube. Acquire some clarity that you know your shit.

I wish you all the luck, you will make it!

Re: Ask HN: Why can't I get interviews or offers anymore?

#28

I know developers like to put their head in sand and pretend to the contrary, but credentials do matter. Things like security or cloud certifications and security clearances are extremely valuable when looking for employment. What has helped me the least is code quality and GitHub projects/portfolio. This has only helped me in the added technical experience and the ability to talk through a variety of scenarios durin…

> I know developers like to put their head in sand and pretend to the contrary, but credentials do matter. Things like security or cloud certifications and security clearances Interesting, I've interviewed with and for a number of tech companies and it's never come up. What companies are you seeing who are interested in certs?

In the past as a JavaScript developer they are happy if you are smart enough to spell your own name or color within the lines without eating the crayons.

This year though things have been far more competitive. I wasn’t getting interviews at all until I focused on a combination of my development experience, my TS, and my certs. Since then I have had many interviews and several competing offers. In one case I given an offer to write test automation in Java with 0 years experience writing Java at this big rocket company, I do have experience writing test automation utilities though. I have since taken a work from job on API architecture for this massive data enterprise.

Re: Ask HN: Why can't I get interviews or offers anymore?

#29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That only works once he's in interviews and people are looking at his resume. He's not getting to the interviews, which means the resume/portfolio doesn't check off enough boxes to the recruiter/hiring manager. Some things on the resume that help: 1. Ivy league education. 2. FAANG listed in past experience. 3. A slew of technologies listed.

No one cares about an Ivy education in tech, it's worth about as much as a state school. The programs are completely devoid of rigor. Now CMU or MIT might raise some eyebrows in a good way but there's maybe 3 or 4 schools in the country that are 'notable' for CS.

Engineers don't care-- sure. However, random HR person screening a resume is going to have a simple thought process.

1. Georgia tech? MMm ok.

2. Harvard? Oh I know that one!

Re: Ask HN: Why can't I get interviews or offers anymore?

#30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No one cares about an Ivy education in tech, it's worth about as much as a state school. The programs are completely devoid of rigor. Now CMU or MIT might raise some eyebrows in a good way but there's maybe 3 or 4 schools in the country that are 'notable' for CS.

Engineers don't care-- sure. However, random HR person screening a resume is going to have a simple thought process. 1. Georgia tech? MMm ok. 2. Harvard? Oh I know that one!

eh good point, I was thinking big tech, but you're right, possible that applying to some average boring bigco it might matter (for a few more years at least...)
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