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Why do you think so? I did think this too until about 6 years ago but with them basically buying all of open source and AI, I kind of can’t help but use and love the products they now own. What damage to they currently do?
Could you post a few examples of what good they did to open source? Genuinely curious.
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#22Earlier quoted context omitted.
Why do you think so? I did think this too until about 6 years ago but with them basically buying all of open source and AI, I kind of can’t help but use and love the products they now own. What damage to they currently do?
Could you post a few examples of what good they did to open source? Genuinely curious.
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#24Oracle doesn't have products the general public would use on the scale of a Microsoft, Amazon, or Google. So these larger companies are scrutinized far more.
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#26Sad how Microsoft doesn't get the reactions it deserves anymore. Probably the single most harmful entity to computing.
Why do you think so? I did think this too until about 6 years ago but with them basically buying all of open source and AI, I kind of can’t help but use and love the products they now own. What damage to they currently do?
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#28On the other hand, I know an oracle dev that suffered a horrible accident and took two years to rehabilitate. Oracle kept him on paid leave that whole time despite it being unrelated to the workplace and past their usual policy.
So based on that my understanding of them now is that they're more than a bit hostile/malignant to those outside the mothership, but not necessarily evil to each other inside it.
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#29Anecdote: Back when I was just an apprentice, I was tasked to duplicate an Oracle database (the Oracle guy just left the company). It took me over 3 hours to figure that one out (exp vs expdp, FULL=Y and OWNER=FOO come to mind).
And don't even get me started on PDBs and usernames starting with "C##"!
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#30If you're an IC at an Oracle customer and you have to interact with their products, you may have a very valid reason to hate them. The people who make purchasing decisions love them. As long as you pay the ransom, Oracle loves you back. The lawyers can be very friendly if you know to stay on their good side.
Microsoft pricing was up front. Oracle is “call us and talk”. This immediately made Oracle a non starter.
When I was at AWS, we could create all of the AWS accounts we wanted and do basically anything we wanted in internal accounts as long as it was tangentially work related or just to experiment with a few sensible guardrails like no publicly accessible S3 buckets without permission and no permissions to any accounts that were not also internal employee AWS accounts
The one thing we couldn’t do without a lot of approvals was start up an Oracle RDS instance without approval and justification.
There is a reason Amazon Redshift is called Redshift - it was built to let Amazon shift away from the Red company (Oracle).
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