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Re: Ask HN: Is this behavior disrespecting our profession?

#21
I was offered a "Senior Engineer" position at General Dynamics right out of grad school in 2015. I ended up not taking the position, but what are you expecting junior people to do? Decline the great sounding title out of a sense of duty?

At this point I try to completely ignore job titles and judge people based on their actual experience and demonstrated capability.

Re: Ask HN: Is this behavior disrespecting our profession?

#23

If you believe titles equate some sort of seniority, like your ideas/solutions are better simply because of your title and lower titles get lower respect, then that's a giant red flag for me as in a "no hire". A Senior at a shop building web sites and apps for small/local businesses will not have the same experience as a Senior at a company scaling into millions of transactions per minute. There should be no disrespe…

I agree with you but to add, OP also misses some plausible explanations:

1. The individual has an incomplete LinkedIn that is not representative of their experience.

2. The title doesn’t matter much at the company in any meaningful way beyond pay scale

Re: Ask HN: Is this behavior disrespecting our profession?

#24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Another thing that bugs me is the blog postings describing career paths in what used to be called FAANG where job titles are weirdly specialized like the language used by sexual subcultures like BDSM and polyarmory. What?? Do you have a link to something like this? BDSM-references seem highly inappropriate in a work setting.

You know that Depeche Mode song Master and Servant that has the line "it's a lot like life?" Links would be really NSFW but if you really want to know I suggest you create an account on Fetlife though the way I see it, that site is what you'd get if Eternal September had an Eternal September and that had an Eternal September again.

Yikes, I guess I don't want to know that badly. No judgment towards Fetlifers, but hard pass from me.

Re: Ask HN: Is this behavior disrespecting our profession?

#25

If you believe titles equate some sort of seniority, like your ideas/solutions are better simply because of your title and lower titles get lower respect, then that's a giant red flag for me as in a "no hire". A Senior at a shop building web sites and apps for small/local businesses will not have the same experience as a Senior at a company scaling into millions of transactions per minute. There should be no disrespe…

I don’t disagree, but the fact we allow titles to get out of wack with reality speaks at how we don’t have very high standards in our profession compared to many others (medicine, law, other kinds of engineering)

Re: Ask HN: Is this behavior disrespecting our profession?

#26

How many years of experience do you think should be required until they can call themselves a senior engineer?

I think something like this makes the most sense for most people: 0-3 junior 3-7 medior 7-12 senior

Then what’s 13+? Old and useless?
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