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Ask HN: Anyone else notice that HN isn’t full of JavaScript frameworks lately?

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Re: Ask HN: Anyone else notice that HN isn’t full of JavaScript frameworks lately?

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Post by cirrus3 »

emehex wrote: post #15
TruthWillHurt wrote: post #4

GPT knowledge cutoff is eons ago in js time. They all had to go back to React for it to write code for them :D

I think about this a lot. About how ChatGPT is perhaps cementing a lot incumbent tech right now. I wonder if the existence of these tools might actually slow down advances in frameworks, packages, libraries, etc...

I don't think about it at all. ChatGPT isn't able to actually do anything I actually need to as a software developer. Code is the easy part, getting good requirements from stakeholders and implementing it as business logic that meets the goals of various other internal concerns is the hard part. ChatGPT doesn't know anything about that stuff.

Sometimes I wonder if anyone clutching their pearls about LLM stuff being able to replace them has actually done any real valuable work as dev.

Re: Ask HN: Anyone else notice that HN isn’t full of JavaScript frameworks lately?

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Post by square_usual »

gejose wrote: post #18
square_usual wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

React doesn't have a "relatively small surface" any more, because even the React team doesn't recommend that you use "just" React. It's all frameworks on top of React like Next or Remix, and those are more complex, have many involved concepts and come with footguns. I have seen many, many sites switch to Next and completely bungle it, making the user experience worse than it was before the change. (Of course, even Re…

> I have seen many, many sites switch to Next and completely bungle it, making the user experience worse than it was before the change. What are some specific sites you've seen that adopted react and ended up worse as a result of it? > doesn't have a "relatively small surface" any more, because even the React team doesn't recommend that you use "just" React Isn't this evidence of it having a relatively small surface…

> Isn't this evidence of it having a relatively small surface area that frameworks and other tools can build on top of, much like html, css etc?

No? You can build on top of a large surface area, too? Of course, the funny thing is, even if you are right and React has a "relatively small surface area" (relative being the operative word,) what good is it when the creators of the framework say that you shouldn't use that surface area directly?

> What are some specific sites you've seen that adopted react and ended up worse as a result of it?

I don't think you're arguing in very good faith, but one recent example is the Indian grocery delivery service bigbasket. They switched from mostly-server-rendered to Next, and the new version was downright horrid for a while, and is only barely usable now. The most cruel part of the joke is that the next.js version is currently only shown to logged in users, so you can blissfully shop for a while, get to the cart and then be hit with the awful new UI.

Re: Ask HN: Anyone else notice that HN isn’t full of JavaScript frameworks lately?

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Post by thomasfromcdnjs »

Someone should do a GPT analysis of HN submissions to find and catalogue the HN-Meta. The meta being, the general rise and fall of sentiments / curiosities.

I've been on here for 15 years and definitely feel phases when it seems like a lull because I am personally not interested in the current hype.

Side note: A few months ago, I swear I saw about 150 different databases I had never heard of on here.

Re: Ask HN: Anyone else notice that HN isn’t full of JavaScript frameworks lately?

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Post by Kerrick »

ramesh31 wrote: post #19

React won. Angular is officially deprecated, and the others are distant also-rans at this point. React Native has also almost completely taken over iOS development. Thank god we can all just agree on a baseline to work from finally.

Do you have a source on Angular Being deprecated? That’s big news that I’ve missed if true.

Re: Ask HN: Anyone else notice that HN isn’t full of JavaScript frameworks lately?

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Post by bebop »

ramesh31 wrote: post #19

React won. Angular is officially deprecated, and the others are distant also-rans at this point. React Native has also almost completely taken over iOS development. Thank god we can all just agree on a baseline to work from finally.

A point of clarification: angularjs is officially deprecated. Angular is very much still being developed and used for new projects.

Re: Ask HN: Anyone else notice that HN isn’t full of JavaScript frameworks lately?

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Post by duluca »

ramesh31 wrote: post #19

React won. Angular is officially deprecated, and the others are distant also-rans at this point. React Native has also almost completely taken over iOS development. Thank god we can all just agree on a baseline to work from finally.

“Angular is officially deprecated”

Snark or lack of knowledge?

Re: Ask HN: Anyone else notice that HN isn’t full of JavaScript frameworks lately?

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Post by Glooply »

ramesh31 wrote: post #19

React won. Angular is officially deprecated, and the others are distant also-rans at this point. React Native has also almost completely taken over iOS development. Thank god we can all just agree on a baseline to work from finally.

Angular is officially deprecated by Google? news to me. Wow.
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