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Ask HN: (How much) do you get paid for being on call?

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You can always simply say “no”. The period of layoffs is over - plenty of SWE work is available everywhere.

I was job hunting until a few weeks ago. From my experience this is absolutely not true for junior dev positions. Do your research. It took a while to find a position even with big tech experience.

Re: Ask HN: (How much) do you get paid for being on call?

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It's normal to be compensated for this. At Google my team got $1600/wk because of the required SLA. At a startup I worked at, we didn't get paid extra, but we got an extra day of PTO for every week on call. (This is technically pointless, as we had unlimited PTO, but we did the rotation Thursday-Thursday and specifically didn't have meetings etc. on Friday so that the 2 people that were oncall last week could take a…

1600/wk is hella a lot.

How often are you on call.. the whole week Mo-Su?

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#24
It's a good thing you asked. The industry standard is four times your base salary rate and double the time back in PTO. That rate goes up 10x per child in your household.

Everyone understands this to be the standard, and if they try to give you less you should quit or find out that your house is a cellular dead zone.

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It's normal to be compensated for this. At Google my team got $1600/wk because of the required SLA. At a startup I worked at, we didn't get paid extra, but we got an extra day of PTO for every week on call. (This is technically pointless, as we had unlimited PTO, but we did the rotation Thursday-Thursday and specifically didn't have meetings etc. on Friday so that the 2 people that were oncall last week could take a…

1600/wk is hella a lot. How often are you on call.. the whole week Mo-Su?

Usually week rotations but it varied heavily between teams.

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It's a good thing you asked. The industry standard is four times your base salary rate and double the time back in PTO. That rate goes up 10x per child in your household. Everyone understands this to be the standard, and if they try to give you less you should quit or find out that your house is a cellular dead zone.

Ok, hah hah. Some of us are managers and need to actually do the negotiations to bring fairness to the job. If you have a way to broker this with the owners of companies that isn't indignant, please help me out.

I'd love to make this the reality, but it's just not.

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#28

At one place I worked, I specifically asked in the interview if we would be on call. "Nope." Within 2 months of being hired, everyone on my team went on call, with no talk of compensation bumps. I was put in the awkward position of attempting to renegotiate my salary after just getting hired, or not being a team player. Don't let this happen to you. It's good that you're thinking about compensation for this work, bec…

> Don't let this happen to you.

What can you really do if they lie in the interview?

Re: Ask HN: (How much) do you get paid for being on call?

#29
Never been paid cash, but some places have provided comp time in varying amounts.

I’ve always given a comp day per week on call so they can recover.

One place had some magical mythical theoretical formula for adding some unspoken amount to your bonus, but it was never broken out.

Re: Ask HN: (How much) do you get paid for being on call?

#30
Our team, led by me and some others, negotiated hard when asked to go on call, that being a material change to our employment contracts at the time.

We ended up with a generous $ stipend per on-call shift, as a % of salary, as well as time off in lieu.

As generous as it sounds, it was an equitable solution in the end, given that we were supporting a multi-million dollar platform that was not fully stable at the time.

A lot has been said by other companies like "your salary should cover that", but I say nuts to that. On-call should be something people actively want to go on. It should be equitable, not forced.

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