Ask HN: How to do market research for product?
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Re: Ask HN: How to do market research for product?
#22Be very careful about how you ask questions because some forms of question solicit "approval" answers. It's culturally informed, some cultures try very very hard NOT to have to deliver a negative. Thats why some UX uses matched-pair questions which have two approaches to the issue at hand, boolean opposites, so you can see if they move sliders, weight or answer both the "correct" way to align the response. Separately…
Re: Ask HN: How to do market research for product?
#23Re: Ask HN: How to do market research for product?
#24Just start selling it, even though you haven't built it yet. If it's successful then your first few customers will be disappointed because you don't deliver well, but by definition if the market demand exists there will be lots of other customers you can delight in the future. If the market demand doesn't exist (or you are bad at selling, etc...) this is the fastest way to find out.
Sooner or later (we may already be past that point), serious buyers will just stop speaking to anyone at all who even just remotely gives off the vibe of being a bootstrapped startup, assuming they're all just hustlers who won't deliver.
Re: Ask HN: How to do market research for product?
#25Be very careful about how you ask questions because some forms of question solicit "approval" answers. It's culturally informed, some cultures try very very hard NOT to have to deliver a negative. Thats why some UX uses matched-pair questions which have two approaches to the issue at hand, boolean opposites, so you can see if they move sliders, weight or answer both the "correct" way to align the response. Separately…
This is one of those things that Steve Blank tries to address with the "Million dollar question." He suggests something like this (paraphrased from memory)
1. Ask your prospect (this assumes you've identified a prospect and gotten in the room, or at least on a call, with them) "If this product were available today and I offered it to you for free, would you start the process of deploying and roll it out immediately?"
If the answer is "no" then you clearly have bigger issues to deal with, considering you're offering the product for free. At this point you have to dig in and find out why. Maybe it's the case that while the current need is valid, there are simply higher priorities for the customer right now. In which case, your only issue is timing. But you may keep digging and find that there's something else. Anyway, repeat this with a few prospects, and you should start to converge on a valid understanding.
2. If the answer to question 1 was "Yes" (and I mean a solid "yes" not a bunch of hemming and hawing) then you next ask "OK, what if I charged you a million dollars for the product?"
Now... if the answer is still "yes", well, in that case you better have a purchase order ready to drop on your customer's desk Right Now. You've won, there's nothing left to do. Well, except for actually delivering the product, and successfully deploying, and integrating it, training users, creating value, etc. But in terms of sales, that would be the "Holy Shit" moment.
Probably not gonna happen though. Probably they'll start hemming and hawing and going "Well, uh... I mean, I dunno, a million dollars is a lot of money...", etc. That's OK. That's not a "no", it just means you now have an idea that the value your product represents to a customer is somewhere between 0 and a million dollars. If you find yourself in this situation, the (huge) body of material out there on sales, pricing and negotiation comes into play. But assuming you can get your customer to a "yes" at a number that would be profitable for you, then you now know that you have a product that can be sold to at least one customer for a profitable price. If you get this far, you're in pretty good shape. If the product actually exists, go ahead and sell it. Use the money to fund further exploration. Keep iterating. If it doesn't exist yet, promise the customer you'll let them know as soon as it's ready and keep iterating. Asking for a non-binding letter of intent to purchase might be useful if you're going to seek external funding.
Re: Ask HN: How to do market research for product?
#26I put in a version of your question:
What should I build for restaurant owners to help them ease some of their operations?
And here is the first part of the answer it gave back:
1. One of the major pain points that restaurant owners face is the difficulty in managing and tracking orders from multiple delivery platforms. A software solution that consolidates orders from various platforms like DoorDash, UberEats, Grubhub, and ChowNow into a single dashboard would be highly beneficial. This would allow restaurant owners to manage their orders more efficiently and reduce the chances of errors or missed orders.
You can use it here https://www.painfinder.co/
Re: Ask HN: How to do market research for product?
#27Talk to potential customers and use very open ended questions. Be upfront that you are doing market research about delivery app usage in restaurants. Start with something like "How is using delivery apps going for you?" The opener the question the better. Most people love to complain. So your hope is that they rant about their biggest problem. If they don't ask about other areas until they start ranting.
After you found a problem, ask follow up questions about how the problem is impacting them personally. (People don't care about their company, they care about their salary, promotions, if their boss likes them etc.) This will help you later in selling your product, when you call back the person 3 months from now with a prototype.
When you have a concrete product or prototype that you show off, the best indicator is that people ask if they can buy the product right now. If they don't or you have to ask them if they are interested it's probably not solving an important problem for them.
PS: This works for B2B. B2C is probably different.
Re: Ask HN: How to do market research for product?
#28I built a tool that lets you chat with 375k user software reviews and ask about user pain points. I put in a version of your question: What should I build for restaurant owners to help them ease some of their operations? And here is the first part of the answer it gave back: 1. One of the major pain points that restaurant owners face is the difficulty in managing and tracking orders from multiple delivery platforms.…
Re: Ask HN: How to do market research for product?
#29I built a tool that lets you chat with 375k user software reviews and ask about user pain points. I put in a version of your question: What should I build for restaurant owners to help them ease some of their operations? And here is the first part of the answer it gave back: 1. One of the major pain points that restaurant owners face is the difficulty in managing and tracking orders from multiple delivery platforms.…
This is very cool, have you considered adding saveable/shareable threads to drill into specific topics? Have found that useful on OAI and other LLMs
Re: Ask HN: How to do market research for product?
#30"Product research" is talking to prospective users/customers. For me, early stage conversations are me trying to understand the customer's problem and how painful it is, not immediately going in with a solution in mind.
Rather than "I've a got a tool that will update your menus on your website", I'm asking "I noticed your website menu is not up to date, why?" "Is it hard to update? Is it expensive? too time consuming? does anyone really care? do you care? does having an outdated menu impact sales?"
Once you've talked to 10's of customers (at minimum), you think you understand the problem, and even have a solution, only then start getting feedback on your proposed product. Do NOT build anything before having customer conversations.
Some general research tips:
- Family and friends in the industry
- Twitter and reddit (looking for complaints, wish lists, people asking for alternatives)
- Product review
- Industry specific publications and forums
- If you've got serious cash, expert interviews and surveys through GLG insights or similar
- Finding people on Linkedin and ask to have a conversation