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Re: Ask HN: Are people in tech inside an AI echo chamber?

#21

My kids and all their friends are crazy about AI. They’re bent on making it do as much of their work as possible. It’s fascinating. Though it probably isn’t intentional, AI service providers are already hooking kids early to have customers later.

Or they're hooking kids because they're least likely to have the domain experience required to recognize how confidently wrong AI can be.

Re: Ask HN: Are people in tech inside an AI echo chamber?

#22
AI discussion has definitely made it mainstream and you can corroborate that just by looking at things like the ongoing Writer's Guild strike where AI generated content is a huge sticking point. That goes doubly for the Acting Guild which looks increasingly likely to strike as well.

Re: Ask HN: Are people in tech inside an AI echo chamber?

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post #5

I saw other waves and this one is different. This is the first time we can unlock increasing cognitive capabilities by just basically letting capital grow its own ai. It's at the level of like invention of internet or currency or printing press or writing or maybe even human language.

I don’t see any evidence that it’s there yet. I do see that potential if AI were to improve dramatically, but I think we’re tricking ourselves into thinking it’s already here because what we’re seeing is so compelling.

The reality as far as I can tell is that we still have an incredible distance to go to have anything comparable to unlocking spoken or written language.

Re: Ask HN: Are people in tech inside an AI echo chamber?

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This isn't just a tech echo chamber, it's the YC/SV echo chamber. Nobody is seriously looking at AI for normal products, because it's not trustworthy. Never really will be. Why do you think subways still have human operators? The combined investment & risk of full automation aren't worth it. It'll be useful for customer support bots, and backend things like spam filtering and other statistical analysis. But otherwise…

It's an incredible tool for augmenting what humans already do. It shifts your role from grunt to output supervisor, imperative to declarative.

Re: Ask HN: Are people in tech inside an AI echo chamber?

#25

My kids and all their friends are crazy about AI. They’re bent on making it do as much of their work as possible. It’s fascinating. Though it probably isn’t intentional, AI service providers are already hooking kids early to have customers later.

Or they're hooking kids because they're least likely to have the domain experience required to recognize how confidently wrong AI can be.

Well, I wonder what’s wrong more often: GPT or a 13 year old :)

Re: Ask HN: Are people in tech inside an AI echo chamber?

#26

This isn't just a tech echo chamber, it's the YC/SV echo chamber. Nobody is seriously looking at AI for normal products, because it's not trustworthy. Never really will be. Why do you think subways still have human operators? The combined investment & risk of full automation aren't worth it. It'll be useful for customer support bots, and backend things like spam filtering and other statistical analysis. But otherwise…

> Why do you think subways still have human operators?

They don’t always. This sucked the wind out of your whole argument. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_driver-less_train_syst...

Re: Ask HN: Are people in tech inside an AI echo chamber?

#27

This isn't just a tech echo chamber, it's the YC/SV echo chamber. Nobody is seriously looking at AI for normal products, because it's not trustworthy. Never really will be. Why do you think subways still have human operators? The combined investment & risk of full automation aren't worth it. It'll be useful for customer support bots, and backend things like spam filtering and other statistical analysis. But otherwise…

It's not just about it being trustworthy but about quality.

AI looks to be great for ideation and development. But it's not there if you value a high quality output.

Re: Ask HN: Are people in tech inside an AI echo chamber?

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post #10

Yes. There's still a lot of people who aren't that aware of this stuff, and frankly, its because it still doesn't have much practical use. Its making headlines left and right, and businesses are all trying to figure out what this stuff does, but if you're not watching much news and not in the tech side of business you probably don't know or care?

It has unbelievable practical use. ChatGPT is a personal tutor on any subject you can think of. It's more that 90% of people can't even be bothered to google the answer to a question they have, despite having a personal computer and oracle in their front pocket.

I'm using an LLM to teach me interactively how LLMs work and how to integrate LLMs into our products. It's replaced 90% of my googling/stack overflow. Every engineer in our company is using Copilot and ChatGPT to write software.

Re: Ask HN: Are people in tech inside an AI echo chamber?

#30
I think the AI space is getting broad attention from the public, largely due to generative AI. However, I think this is a bit of a double-edged sword. AI has a trust problem - people know it lies to you. It lies to me all the time. Convincingly! This is hurting people's initial impressions and I suspect that we're going to lose traction for a while before we once again re-gain it as the trust problem is solved. Time will tell.
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