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Ask HN: Why Discord instead of a public forum?

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Re: Ask HN: Why Discord instead of a public forum?

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Many Reddit moderators are interested in Pc Gaming, and Discord is ubiquitous in that space. It’s free, infinite scaling, and there is a big overlap in the user bases. > But discord is far from a real knowledge base I think you’d struggle to find many reddit moderators that see themselves as archivists of knowledge. Reddit being a go-to resource for google results is mostly seen as a fluke or unintended side effect.

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Re: Ask HN: Why Discord instead of a public forum?

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Or even better, they could've used usenet. Usenet has all the benefits of automagically scaling (due to federation) and no worries about the issues of self-hosting (security, updates, etc) but also isn't run by any single company or person. The open protocols of the past are so much better than the proprietary corporate software services of today.

I have been wondering why Usenet and IRC haven't experienced a resurgence. Discord will be the next casualty of corporate greed. It's really a fallacy that these communities are moving to yet another corporate-controlled entity.

Re: Ask HN: Why Discord instead of a public forum?

#23
I've been wondering about this myself, and I wonder if anyone here knows: Would Zulip with public conversations be a good alternative? (I've never used public conversations in it and I don't know how they work, but I love Zulip itself).

Presumably they can also be indexed, but I'm not sure at all.

Re: Ask HN: Why Discord instead of a public forum?

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The people who use Reddit as a knowledge base are not the users that add to the community. When you’re a Reddit moderator, or any type of online-community leader, you care about the people who participate, not the people who lurk and do nothing. Discord lets members of your community search for messages. It lets you pin important messages to be easily referenced later. It lets you create a link to the message, and se…

Is there any tooling that can plug into Discord to make the corpus within Discord more publicly accessible, perhaps on a per server basis? Let folks come together where it is easier for maintainers and participates, and offload the heavy lifting of exposing the knowledge to middleware.

Re: Ask HN: Why Discord instead of a public forum?

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Or even better, they could've used usenet. Usenet has all the benefits of automagically scaling (due to federation) and no worries about the issues of self-hosting (security, updates, etc) but also isn't run by any single company or person. The open protocols of the past are so much better than the proprietary corporate software services of today.

Scaling by making a huge numbers of copies. Basically a blockchain and similarly efficient.

Re: Ask HN: Why Discord instead of a public forum?

#27

Most of the time, when people have a question, they don't know what the question is exactly. If they did, they probably could find the answer on the internet. They benefit immensely from having real time questioning and feedback with someone knowledgeable helping them to dissect their problem into a real question and answer. Discords are not searchable but if someone is there to chat with, that is infinitely better f…

Also: any discord mod worth their salt will have set up a #faqs channel with the most-frequent questions and their answers.

We went a step further on the iRacing community discord and wrote a bot that will search that channel and spit out answers.

…because users will nearly always just ask a FAQ instead of reading one.

Re: Ask HN: Why Discord instead of a public forum?

#28
A big drawback, and what killed many of the original forums, is spam management and maintenance. It's a very lucrative target to attack for two reasons. Popular public forums tend to be very central in pagerank, so if you manage to post comment spam, that's a big win. Forums also act as large databases of usernames and (maybe) hashed passwords, so if you manage to find a vulnerability in the software, you can sell those for decent cash.

This means that forums are always under attack on multiple fronts and require time consuming moderation and maintenance around the clock.

Centralized solutions like Discord and Reddit can use economies of scale to tackle the problem in a much more cost-effective way.

Re: Ask HN: Why Discord instead of a public forum?

#30

Because people want a community and Discord delivers on that. It also has Reddit's critical feature of "one account, infinite communities", something you don't have when you become an indie forum. It's not very searchable, but people don't care much about that. Just think of how nonessential HN search is to your day-to-day of having a conversation on HN.

"I already have an account there," is a much more powerful force than some realize. Signup fatigue is real, and a lot of people will just hit the back button if it turns out they need to register a new account to participate.
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