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Ask HN: What 60 folks can give career and general life advice for 40 folks

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Re: Ask HN: What 60 folks can give career and general life advice for 40 folks

#21
Not 60, but trying to somewhat predict where I will be at that time... As a non-native English speaker I used to say:

20 years ago I knew that if I wanted to have a great career today, I had to learn English. Today, if I want to have a great career 20 years from now, I should learn Chinese.

(since then I left the telco bubble, maybe other parts of the tech industry are not that Chinese-heavy)

Re: Ask HN: What 60 folks can give career and general life advice for 40 folks

#22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This should probably be enshrined on tablets somewhere. I too am worried about either moving into management or starting my own company or something else because there’s no way I’m going to be a worthwhile IC into my 50s. I need to do something more.

I sure hope I have a big exit sometime before 60 (20 years from now), because the cost of living in the Bay Area is crazy. It would be awful to work as a "well paid" (but most of it goes to living expenses and raising kids) software engineer for many years, and then need to retire in some rural area on social security, with bare minimum quality of life...

Bay Area life is hardly necessary and shouldn’t be taken as a given. You’re making an active decision to take the gamble on earning a lot on paper but being in a super HCOL area. I earn a comfortable amount and am likely going to retire comfortably, though I certainly earn less than you. You’ve decided to take the risk. Own it or change.

Re: Ask HN: What 60 folks can give career and general life advice for 40 folks

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post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Assuming that there will be any actual money in those accounts by the time you get to retire is incredibly optimistic. With the way things are developing, everything being wiped out by some event in the next 20 years seems far more likely. The list of potential causes is long: Bank and government failures, demographic collapse, AI, climate change, war, inflation. Or, some future government might simply decide that th…

All my investments are in stocks. People tell me "what if the stock market goes to zero?" Well, then I'd lose everything. But consider this - if the stock market goes to zero, so does the bond market, so does the real estate market, so do hog futures, your NFTs, your collector car, etc. The only thing that goes up is ammunition. So sure, it could happen, but I'm not going to diversify, because that won't work, either…

We can also look at some major historical disruptions that did NOT drive all stocks to zero, and then think what would have to happen worse than that.

The only way it makes sense NOT to save for retirement is if your current utilization of the money is better than all or most possible retirement outcomes (paying down very high interest debt may apply, for example).

You can also save for retirement in other balanced ways, such as saving into a "mortgage payoff" fund; if the government has collapsed to the point where land is being seized, well, hope you invested in lead.

Re: Ask HN: What 60 folks can give career and general life advice for 40 folks

#25

For me the biggest factor has been understanding how the hedonistic trap limited my options. It works like this: you start a new job with a nice big bump in salary. You buy a new car, go to fancier restaurants, take dates to "in places", move into a nicer apartment. With each increment of income, expenses increase. Pretty soon you are trapped in an awful job but the pay is too good and you have no savings. Getting of…

I am 27 and I feel like I am at that stage of my life. Only recently I started becoming self aware of my hedonism way of living. I get that high from getting the next shiny thing and after a week, I start seeking the next material thing I want to get. I feel lost and unfulfilled

Re: Ask HN: What 60 folks can give career and general life advice for 40 folks

#26
post #15

Call your Mom, Today.

Well, tomorrow is Mother's Day, anyway.

Cool, did not know that as I am in Ireland and we have different dates but as a general piece of advice for those in their 40’s I would recommend making the effort to keep in touch with your parents. Equally if you have teenagers, remember this phase will pass so try and stay connected with them because pretty much the only thing that matters are the small few people you really care about.

Re: Ask HN: What 60 folks can give career and general life advice for 40 folks

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post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Assuming that there will be any actual money in those accounts by the time you get to retire is incredibly optimistic. With the way things are developing, everything being wiped out by some event in the next 20 years seems far more likely. The list of potential causes is long: Bank and government failures, demographic collapse, AI, climate change, war, inflation. Or, some future government might simply decide that th…

All my investments are in stocks. People tell me "what if the stock market goes to zero?" Well, then I'd lose everything. But consider this - if the stock market goes to zero, so does the bond market, so does the real estate market, so do hog futures, your NFTs, your collector car, etc. The only thing that goes up is ammunition. So sure, it could happen, but I'm not going to diversify, because that won't work, either…

Nah, you're wrong. Japan's stock market dropped 90%. For 15 years straight, and never recovered above 80% of it's peak. US is only "special" until it isn't.

This didn't mean society collapsed and they started living in a Mad Max universe as people defending "stocks can't go to zero" argue.

Stocks industry is just a massive gambling machine. It can and will wipe out all your capital in completely unpredictable ways.

Buy real estate, own land, even keep money in the bank, with all inflation and shit they're much safer than in the cesspool scam that the stock market is.

Re: Ask HN: What 60 folks can give career and general life advice for 40 folks

#28

Not quite in my 60s just yet, but close. Anyway: Work: find your niche. Accept that you're not going to be a hotshot coder/consultant/whatever forever. However, outside of 'fashionable tech' there is an entire world where you can make a comfortable living and nobody cares about your age. That doesn't mean you can stop learning: remaining up-to-date on relevant skills is important, but 'relevant' does a lot of heavy l…

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Re: Ask HN: What 60 folks can give career and general life advice for 40 folks

#29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

All my investments are in stocks. People tell me "what if the stock market goes to zero?" Well, then I'd lose everything. But consider this - if the stock market goes to zero, so does the bond market, so does the real estate market, so do hog futures, your NFTs, your collector car, etc. The only thing that goes up is ammunition. So sure, it could happen, but I'm not going to diversify, because that won't work, either…

Nah, you're wrong. Japan's stock market dropped 90%. For 15 years straight, and never recovered above 80% of it's peak. US is only "special" until it isn't. This didn't mean society collapsed and they started living in a Mad Max universe as people defending "stocks can't go to zero" argue. Stocks industry is just a massive gambling machine. It can and will wipe out all your capital in completely unpredictable ways. B…

You should probably not stop with the discussion of Japan at that point. They have a central bank pushing hard against the trend. Further, you’re still arguing from a limited point of view as keeping all investments in Japan wouldn’t be diversified.
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