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Ask HN: Pros and cons of thinking in public vs. in private?

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Re: Ask HN: Pros and cons of thinking in public vs. in private?

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Ah, my topic of specialty. I've been doing this for a decade, but only figured it out over the past ~5 years.

Pros:

- Inbound Marketing: You not only are able to bring part of your work with you between jobs, but your thinking and learning in public demonstrates your interest, expertise, and growth over time such that it tends to attract jobs and other opportunities to you (including opps that are not formally open to everyone yet)

- Bloom's Taxonomy: Retain more of what you learn by writing it down in your own words rather than simply holding it in your head

- The 1% Rule: 99% of people lurk, less than 1% make content, you stand out in your field simply by saying something

- Cunningham's Law: “The best way to get the right answer on the Internet is not to ask a question; it’s to post the wrong answer.” Being publicly wrong attracts teachers, as long as you don’t do it in such high quantity that people give up on you altogether. Conversely, once you’ve gotten something wrong in public, you never forget it.

- Positive Reinforcement: Building in a social feedback mechanism to your learning encourages more learning. As you build a track record and embark on more ambitious projects with implicit future promise, your public activity becomes a Commitment Device.

- Productizing Yourself: well, Naval said it best so I'll just drop a link https://nav.al/productize-yourself

Cons:

- It takes extra effort to write down something you're already thinking. E.g. it can feel like pure overhead to write down notes on a conversation you just had or talk you just saw. However if you agree that you shouldnt be optimizing for quantity of content consumed, rather the quantity and quality of what you *retain*, then the optimal write-read ratio is higher than 0 (I think 10-20% is a good range).

- You may get things wrong, sometimes embarrassingly so. Separate your (past) thinking and writing from your identity. http://www.paulgraham.com/identity.html

- You may hurt people's feelings by omitting their contributions, saying something you didn't mean, or saying something you regret. A bad enough case can lose you friendships and opportunities forever. So you'll have to learn how to filter what you say through the lens of other people's egos and your own fog of ignorance. Especially be careful about thinking in public about confidential work stuff or other private secrets, and err on the side of caution when it involves other people.

- Some people might see your mistakes and judge you harshly since they know better. This can be mitigated by demonstrating both intent and ability to learn quickly over time and respond well to criticism.

Source: I've written a popular essay (https://www.swyx.io/learn-in-public/), book (https://learninpublic.org/v1-principles-learn-in-public.pdf), and done some talks and podcasts (https://www.swyx.io/ideas?filter=learn%20in%20public) about this. You can check my post history for how I do it.

Re: Ask HN: Pros and cons of thinking in public vs. in private?

#22
I post on LinkedIn, Stack Exchange, and this site using my real name.

The benefit of doing so is that I have to keep myself in check and really think before I write - yes, there are edits and deletions - and overall the effect has been very positive for me.

Being active on the chemistry SE site has actually proven to be of value in getting jobs related to chemistry - at least 3 employers have said it was useful to see some of my answers - so that is also good.

On the negative side? As far as I know, there is only one other person on the planet who shares my first and last name combination (different middle initial, and turns out to be a distant relative) so there might come a day when I have to do some reputation control should someone impersonate me: but that's not something with a lot of upside :)

Re: Ask HN: Pros and cons of thinking in public vs. in private?

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The biggest con is that sometimes you'll be wrong. Embarrassingly so. It might be a prediction that was duff, a solution that was non-optimal, or an opinion that's so far out of mainstream it warns people off you. The best way to manage that is to show people in private before you publish. That can be as simple as having a friend or partner check your spelling. Or it can be as complex as getting several people to sen…

I do wish more folks were both fearless to be hilariously wrong, and that folks allowed it more. Instead, everything has to feel well rehearsed. It is exhausting to try and emulate. :(

It looks well rehearsed because by the time you see it, usually it has been rehearsed.

Comedians bomb in small clubs so they shine on the big stage. Writers like me publish blog posts and articles so the ideas that make it into books are battle tested. The podcast episode that goes viral is usually the 10th+ time that podcaster has said the same thing in slight variations.

TV and radio hosts keep saying the same things and having similar conversations over and over daily for decades.

Re: Ask HN: Pros and cons of thinking in public vs. in private?

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One con certainly is being unprepared for and therefore discouraged by an unfortunate rule of the internet comment box: it tends to heavily skew toward disagreements and nitpicks with whatever you put out there. If you don't account for this you'll come away with the impression that nobody gets value from the thoughts you've put out, when the reality may be the opposite. Sites like HN with upvotes help a bit with bal…

The best way to test this theory of skewed negativity is to find a product you are pleased with, go on Amazon, and pull up all the low star reviews.

You would have never guessed just how wrong and loud comments can be.

Re: Ask HN: Pros and cons of thinking in public vs. in private?

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The biggest con is that sometimes you'll be wrong. Embarrassingly so. It might be a prediction that was duff, a solution that was non-optimal, or an opinion that's so far out of mainstream it warns people off you. The best way to manage that is to show people in private before you publish. That can be as simple as having a friend or partner check your spelling. Or it can be as complex as getting several people to sen…

I do wish more folks were both fearless to be hilariously wrong, and that folks allowed it more. Instead, everything has to feel well rehearsed. It is exhausting to try and emulate. :(

I believe that a lot people are quite comfortable in being hilariously wrong, look at any modern political discourse, but the problem in my mind is that people aren't equally prepared to self-reflect and admit fault or reconsider a position.

At the same time though, I do find myself often times at work qualifying things with "I think" or similar phrasing, and I'm still not sure if I do it to avoid embarrassment or if it's to not come off as too arrogant. Maybe it's both.

Re: Ask HN: Pros and cons of thinking in public vs. in private?

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Beyond [[pseudonymity|Anonymity]], [[privacy]] comes in degrees. Depending on your topics, interlocutors, and threat model, you may find it worthy to be able to scale your privacy up or down in various circumstances (which doesn't make all methods foolproof, but in practice it seems to go a long way). For example, being able to turn off parts of your web presence while still leaving up other parts of or gateways to your public net presence may be useful.

Re: Ask HN: Pros and cons of thinking in public vs. in private?

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One con certainly is being unprepared for and therefore discouraged by an unfortunate rule of the internet comment box: it tends to heavily skew toward disagreements and nitpicks with whatever you put out there. If you don't account for this you'll come away with the impression that nobody gets value from the thoughts you've put out, when the reality may be the opposite. Sites like HN with upvotes help a bit with bal…

Some of my HN comments will simultaneously have only very critical replies and lots of upvotes. It’s hard to interpret that.

It means you are popular with the plebs while smart people disagree with you.

Re: Ask HN: Pros and cons of thinking in public vs. in private?

#28
The cons of thinking in public: - Everyone judges you. - Everyone can snap to a potentially wrong assumption about you or your motives. - The conversation can shift to a meta discussion about you as a person, or some other factor, instead of the argument or proposal you were originally concerned enough to publicly post about.

Thinking in private allows greater freedom in some ways, although you do exchange power for that freedom. There is a lot of power in public opinion.

I explore this theme very in-depth in my web serial, which I just recently launched on RoyalRoad! Torth by AbbyBabble.

Re: Ask HN: Pros and cons of thinking in public vs. in private?

#29

One con certainly is being unprepared for and therefore discouraged by an unfortunate rule of the internet comment box: it tends to heavily skew toward disagreements and nitpicks with whatever you put out there. If you don't account for this you'll come away with the impression that nobody gets value from the thoughts you've put out, when the reality may be the opposite. Sites like HN with upvotes help a bit with bal…

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Re: Ask HN: Pros and cons of thinking in public vs. in private?

#30
You have a perfect shared context with yourself.

You often have a lot of shared context with those close to you.

Thinking in public you have lost a tremendous amount of context.

You have to add a mountain of backstory, caveats, and exceptions to everything you say so the user can understand the actual meaning you are trying to convey instead of the lens of their own context they hear your comments through.

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