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Ask HN: Help – Locked out of 10 years Gmail account

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Re: Ask HN: Help – Locked out of 10 years Gmail account

#21

I made the jump to Fastmail and I'm very happy with it. Web interface is at least as good as Gmail's. Thunderbird keeps a local copy of my emails, I control the email domain. I can create backups. The second you get back in you gotta get off this platform.

The Apple Mail app on iOS and MacOS is pretty decent. No need to use the official Fastmail client (if you are on Apple and prefer the simple Apple alternative).

Re: Ask HN: Help – Locked out of 10 years Gmail account

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post #5

Yikes! good luck, hope it works out. This is scary. Gmail is still, by far, the best email app. Something like this could happen to me and, I suspect, a lot of other people.

The best email app wouldn't ban you for an emoticon in Youtube chat or sending a medical photo to your doctor.

These ToS, CSAM, moderation, etc are very orthogonal to the app itself. Why conflate them? Most non-hackernews people are completely unaware of them, so it won't be a factor in their choice of platform. Are we even sure other apps aren't doing similar things? Or have equally dangerous practices around password changes?

Re: Ask HN: Help – Locked out of 10 years Gmail account

#23
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My strategy is to only use GMail and no other Google service at all (cloud, ads, ...) This way there is little possibility of somehow being labeled as fraudulent.

This. I also deny them data collection by not being logged in on my primary browser since I don't use any other service. I originally started doing that when they began to break Gmail performance in Firefox and had to access via Chrome but now it's out of spite.

Re: Ask HN: Help – Locked out of 10 years Gmail account

#24

> because (like a fool) You are no fool. No doubt you are way above average intelligence. This so-called "security" ecosystem of Big-Tech is a dumpster fire of rotting clinical waste. Hope it doesn't spoil your holiday break - and for goodness sake make a New Year Resolution - to quit this madness forever.

I started working with security to help avoid these kind of scenarios to happen. No doubt gmail is adding controls to their service without fully considering the implications. When security locks you out of your content it is a non-conformity that should be resolved asap zulu.

Re: Ask HN: Help – Locked out of 10 years Gmail account

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post #8

You don't matter for Google and creating HN spam threads won't change that. At worst, it will solve your particular problem and invite similar spam threads from other victims of faceless corporations.

Such topics help more people realize that Google should not be trusted with managing their emails (or anything really). More threads like this:

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31782952

Re: Ask HN: Help – Locked out of 10 years Gmail account

#28

Google's strategy of locking out people from "everything" is just insane! Someone needs to lawyer up and make them pay through the nose for stealing access to individual’s personal data that doesn't even belong to them.

Even this "someone" wins, if it's not a class action, I doubt any amount of money out of the lawsuit would change anything for a big company like Google. And I doubt case of these could result in class action anyways.

Re: Ask HN: Help – Locked out of 10 years Gmail account

#30

I made the jump to Fastmail and I'm very happy with it. Web interface is at least as good as Gmail's. Thunderbird keeps a local copy of my emails, I control the email domain. I can create backups. The second you get back in you gotta get off this platform.

The Apple Mail app on iOS and MacOS is pretty decent. No need to use the official Fastmail client (if you are on Apple and prefer the simple Apple alternative).

Also, iCloud+ allows the use of a custom domain. It may be an easier option for some.
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