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Ask HN: How to deal with burnout and its consequences?

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Re: Ask HN: How to deal with burnout and its consequences?

#23

Rather than ADHD, have you considered severe anxiety? I had a serious problem of not being able to start and complete basic tasks because I was so filled with anxiety about, well everything, that I was self-defeating. What so you do instead of completing tasks? Is it just a wall preventing you from completing tasks, or do you get distracted by other things? I have ADHD and it’s been a lifelong struggle, however, as I…

For some people ADHD and anxiety are co-morbid.

Re: Ask HN: How to deal with burnout and its consequences?

#24

>During my time off I've been poked and prodded by psychologists and they seem to think I have ADHD and that it was a large contributing factor to this, though I'm not completely sure I buy this explanation. I think you should give this idea more thought. The situation you find yourself in is not uncommon among high-functioning ADHD persons, and your life can truly get a whole lot better with a bit of therapy and med…

I mean if they want to try and medicate me I'm not going to say no at this point, regardless of my personal views on the diagnosis. I've reached a point where I don't think any additional harm would be caused by doing so. I'm going to find out in ~2 weeks at my next meeting whether they want to try medicine or not and I will just do whatever they tell me to do. I mean I'm not a psychologist, I'm paying them for their…

>I've reached a point where I don't think any additional harm would be caused by doing so.

My friend, I truly feel your pain. I have been there, and I promise you it gets better.

>I'm going to find out in ~2 weeks at my next meeting whether they want to try medicine or not.

They're going to ask you if you want to try medication. I would encourage you to be actively engaged in your therapy. You can start by thinking about how you would answer the question, "would you like to try medication?" I suspect you have conflicting feelings about it; being able to articulate them clearly is a good way to start.

Re: Ask HN: How to deal with burnout and its consequences?

#25
> My job wasn't overly difficult, but the corporate environment I found myself in was something I'd never done before and it was completely unsuited to me as an individual

Is the heart of your problem your career or this specific job / company? A change of scenery can do wonders to re-motivate and reinvigorate.

Re: Ask HN: How to deal with burnout and its consequences?

#26
> given my firing seems imminent at this point

I don't have the exact answer but to me this needs to be focused on.

Psychological safety is paramount. Workers need to know that they won't be punished or humiliated for speaking up with ideas, questions, concerns, or mistakes. Not having that safety for a health issue shows there's something severely wrong with your place of employment.

Re: Ask HN: How to deal with burnout and its consequences?

#27
I have been there too! I was also incapable of working afterwards. All the code was alien to me. Being in the office was a nightmare. I wanted shout and jump through the window! And seeing all the people whose mismanagement let me into this bad post burnout situation was even worse. Corona, my savior, came to me and office was closed. In hid at home and forced myself to do 6 daily pomodoros. That was enough to keep my job and think about other aspects of life. Now I have small consultancy, run my own product development and do my 4-6 daily pomodoros to keep that nice big corp salary. Management has changed, so I am coming for couple days to the office to chat and visit my own clients in the same city afterwards.

At the end I see burnout as very positive thing what happened to me. I am much better professional and better person. It brought me the understanding that I am not more than excel row for big corp and I must take care of myself by myself. Loyalty does not pay off.

Take your time, try keeping a job somehow. Looking for a new job while being mentally off track is very very hard.

Re: Ask HN: How to deal with burnout and its consequences?

#28
Your reaction sounds reasonable to the BS corporate world. It's the agile coaches out there planning more meetings that need a psychologist.

Changing job may have a temporary positive effect, it lasts roughly 6 months for me.

Do the absolute minimum at any job you need to so you don't starve. Don't try to makes sense of it. It is indeed BS and you shouldn't care. Don't care.

Meanwhile, try to figure out an exit strategy. Build something you enjoy doing, start building passive revenue streams which may support you and replace your daily job. Hope you can escape the BS soon, we're all in this together.

Good luck

Re: Ask HN: How to deal with burnout and its consequences?

#29
If you're seeking care, this can also keep you from being fired (at least in the US/some countries). Most corporations have an employee counseling hotline that you can engage with that can help with this. Not that you want/plan to stay there. But that corp helped contribute to your condition-- they can help foot the bill. Don't put this all on yourself (but also don't put it all on others).

I was diagnosed at 32. Extremely high functioning but prone to burnout. I was hesitant as well, but embracing my diagnosis was life changing. You don't have to make ADHD your SINGLE core attribute like some people do. But ignoring what might be a core part of yourself isn't beneficial. Remember that it's just information-- what you do with the data is what's important. Meds can help but learning how to have healthy interactions with work and in my personal life was key.

You're not alone in this. I've found that there seems to be a higher concentration of ADHD in Dev/Security work. The constant newness of things keeps us interested-- but can also be dangerous.

Also, consider therapy. Even if you think you don't need it. Not a psychologist. But an actual factual therapist. I would prioritize this over medication, but honestly pursue them both. Therapy isn't what you think it is. It's a great way to have a sounding board.

Re: Ask HN: How to deal with burnout and its consequences?

#30
I took a 3 month sabbatical this summer after burning out really hard. Now I am with a new company and don't feel 100% recovered (and probably never will be) but at least I am taking steps to prevent getting burned out again, not working more than 10 hours per day, only working weekends during crunch, and I uninstall outlook/teams from my phone when I take a vacation.
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