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Re: Ask HN: How did you find joy in life?

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In my very non-professional opinion, that sounds like depression. I'm pulling on personal experience here. I've felt very similarly. I take medication and see a therapist now. I also don't experience these feelings any more. I don't know if I solved a problem or grew out of a phase.

To answer your question, though: I found a friendly community of people that held a similar worldview to me.

Re: Ask HN: How did you find joy in life?

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In my very non-professional opinion, that sounds like depression. I'm pulling on personal experience here. I've felt very similarly. I take medication and see a therapist now. I also don't experience these feelings any more. I don't know if I solved a problem or grew out of a phase. To answer your question, though: I found a friendly community of people that held a similar worldview to me.

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Re: Ask HN: How did you find joy in life?

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I don't think looking up to Feynman as a role model is a good idea. The stories Feynman told about himself and the way he portrayed himself were not necessarily true. I've read an account of someone who was his neighbor and knew him well (was a physicist, too), and it wasn't very flattering. It sounded like Feynman was pretty insecure and cared a great deal what people think about him and that they consider him a gen…

>It sounded like Feynman was pretty insecure and cared a great deal what people think about him and that they consider him a genius and a very interesting man.

So, just like almost everybody else - but in his case he was indeed a genius and very interesting...

>Zorba the Greek is a fictional character. Not a great role model at all, since he's purely a made up construct.

Missing the point...

Re: Ask HN: How did you find joy in life?

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In my very non-professional opinion, that sounds like depression. I'm pulling on personal experience here. I've felt very similarly. I take medication and see a therapist now. I also don't experience these feelings any more. I don't know if I solved a problem or grew out of a phase. To answer your question, though: I found a friendly community of people that held a similar worldview to me.

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What makes you think taking medicine for depression could potentially lead to brain damage?

Re: Ask HN: How did you find joy in life?

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post #8

Just possibly, your low engagement and low interest are symptoms of depression or similar.

What cures are there for depression other than 1. anti-depressants 2. therapy / exercise / diet changes 3. a perspective change 4. ignoring it

I’d follow the results of Cybin and their psilocybin clinical trials.

Re: Ask HN: How did you find joy in life?

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What cures are there for depression other than 1. anti-depressants 2. therapy / exercise / diet changes 3. a perspective change 4. ignoring it

Sleep deprivation

That’s a short term band aid and possibly damaging long term.

Re: Ask HN: How did you find joy in life?

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In my very non-professional opinion, that sounds like depression. I'm pulling on personal experience here. I've felt very similarly. I take medication and see a therapist now. I also don't experience these feelings any more. I don't know if I solved a problem or grew out of a phase. To answer your question, though: I found a friendly community of people that held a similar worldview to me.

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Modern, first-line antidepressant use (SSRI/SNRIs) is not correlated with having a "damaged brain".

There's certainly side effects, but most people find the side effects more tolerable than depression itself. And, many are able to use the SSRIs as an adjunct to more permanent therapy and do not need to take the pills long term.

Re: Ask HN: How did you find joy in life?

#29
I had a clear realization early in life: life has no meaning at all. Nothing really has any meaning. We are just neurons firing, chemical reactions constrained by physical laws.

Later, when I read Buddhism, it says similar things.

So, should we just prepare ourselves for death like the ancient Jains who starved themselves to death because nothing had any meaning?

That would be pretty worthless, innit?

I have discovered a simple, yet, profound truth: "Meaning is what you assign to stuff with stern agency. Nothing else."

You are the sole assigner of meaning, and you do the assigning, and it's your life's mission to stick to it.

I have found meaning in health, self-preservation through earning money, love- romantic and other kinds, parents, dog, learning new things, music, enjoying small things in life, helping others selflessly, and making it a mission to contribute to society as much as possible so maximum number of people can realize such intricacies of the nature of reality.

Yes, I was in your situation before. And I did bounce back. All it took me was being in ICU for 15 days when I was 21, fully conscious but fully paralized and ventilated. And meditations. A lot of it.

(I fully recovered within two months, and currently live a fully healthy life with no medications.)

Re: Ask HN: How did you find joy in life?

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post #8

Just possibly, your low engagement and low interest are symptoms of depression or similar.

What cures are there for depression other than 1. anti-depressants 2. therapy / exercise / diet changes 3. a perspective change 4. ignoring it

Well, 4 can also be considered as "just let some time pass", which as a cure can be synonymous with 3, or with 5: a change of fortunes/circumstances (as there is also situational depression, being depressed about actual shitty circumstances, from sickness and close deaths to incarceration).

In any case, those 4 things you've mentioned are well enough already.

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