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Re: Ask HN: Why is Microsoft Teams still so bad?

#22

I suggest you try the web app version, it’s faster and more stable. In fact, I believe Microsoft will replace the desktop client with a web app shell. You can try it out today; 1. Install the Microsoft Edge Web browser on Mac or Windows 2. Log into https://teams.microsoft.com 3. Click … > Apps > Install this site as an app 4. Enjoy!

Desktop version is electron

Re: Ask HN: Why is Microsoft Teams still so bad?

#24
Teams is buggy, clunky, and unreliable, though fairly feature rich. I find things like Google stuff/Slack/Discord to be somewhat more reliable and less unpleasant to use (even if Discord is another clunky Electron app.)

But few things can compare to Zoom's astonishingly cavalier attitude toward security and privacy, and Zoom seems unavoidable in many contexts.

Re: Ask HN: Why is Microsoft Teams still so bad?

#25

Everyone saying teams is garbage. It’s not. It’s like you’re complaining about the kid who got a C in class. Guess what? They passed the exam. Microsoft brutalised Slack with a C grade app that was “bundled for free”. For 80% of people, teams is just fine.

Agreed. I use both apps simultaneously (I have them both open right now).

Admittedly, Teams uses a lot more RAM, but I have a lot of RAM. I would never know this unless I checked it.

Re: Ask HN: Why is Microsoft Teams still so bad?

#27

I suggest you try the web app version, it’s faster and more stable. In fact, I believe Microsoft will replace the desktop client with a web app shell. You can try it out today; 1. Install the Microsoft Edge Web browser on Mac or Windows 2. Log into https://teams.microsoft.com 3. Click … > Apps > Install this site as an app 4. Enjoy!

Desktop version is electron

that is changing "soon" (with an ever-changing definition of "soon")

Re: Ask HN: Why is Microsoft Teams still so bad?

#30
It's the iPhone effect: If you use Teams, and something goes wrong, everybody is patient and sympathetic. If you use something else, then it's your fault for being "weird" or "cheap." In my case, my computer came from IT, pre-loaded with Teams, and it runs nearly flawlessly.

But I've noticed something else about computers and software. You can have two people with similar jobs, similar computers, similar software, etc. One person will have crashes and problems all the time, and the other person, smooth sailing. Nobody knows why. It doesn't matter whether they're IT experts or homemakers. In the words of a former office-mate: "I got a new computer, and spent two days setting it up exactly the way I want it, and yet it still crashes all the time." That person was a very sharp and productive programmer, yet he was swearing at his computer almost continually.

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