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Ask HN: How did you start higher education after 40?

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Re: Ask HN: How did you start higher education after 40?

#21

Not worth the hassle in my opinion. People who don't have it often think they need it but the reality is that you can learn on your own and fast as well.

I've taught myself plenty, but in my experience, unless you're incredibly single minded, there's nothing quite like the immersion experience to push you forward.

Re: Ask HN: How did you start higher education after 40?

#22

I went straight to work and didn't get to college until 41/42. I'm working on my undergrad and plan to continue to my masters. I've found it incredibly rewarding for two main reasons. First, since I have a career already, I'm free of the pressure to go to school for career purposes and can focus on something I enjoy, which also provides immense value to what I'm doing every day (I chose philosophy, much more relevant…

Can you expand on how you found philosophy practical?

Teaches you to think in ways that other courses won't.

Re: Ask HN: How did you start higher education after 40?

#23

I'm a software developer, and had got into a rut of working for finance companies, because they have the money. I'm in my early 50's with four kids, three still at home, and I'm working my way slowly through a biomedical science degree, already it's given me the domain knowledge to able switch industries - I'm still a software developer but now in a biomed startup and much happier for it. One of my colleagues just co…

Can you talk more about the transition? Did you start over w/ bachelors in biology? Are you taking classes online/on the side?

I'm in a very similar situation as you and want to jump into grad school, but it looks like that's not possible w/o undergraduate degree.

Re: Ask HN: How did you start higher education after 40?

#24
Unless you’re teaching don’t waste your time.

To me it smells like a vanity play, unless you’re doing it so you can get another 100k per year.

And yes, I can hear the people saying education is always a good thing to have.

But it reminds me of so many friends who have jobs less than 100k per year in the USA and go to take a masters degree. In almost every case, the higher degree did not change the outcomes they wanted in their life. They ended up with debt in their 40’s.

In almost every case it was a waste of time for the person. Imagine you’re 45 years old and you take 2 years to take this degree. The cost is just not worth it.

The world is moving to a place where degrees are no longer worth what they were in almost every profession (barring medicine, law, etc).

Don’t do it.

Re: Ask HN: How did you start higher education after 40?

#25

Not worth the hassle in my opinion. People who don't have it often think they need it but the reality is that you can learn on your own and fast as well.

This really depends on what the goal is. If you want to work as a researcher, it is more appropriate to view a PhD at least as a apprenticeship which teaches you how to be a researcher. There are a lot of skills you pick up doing this that are quite difficult to pick up without doing a PhD—not because they’re hard, but simply because you’re unlikely to be aware of what they are.

Re: Ask HN: How did you start higher education after 40?

#26
You didn't mention what the degree is or why you're doing it. If you have a specific job you have in mind maybe ask HR if they think a masters were help. Maybe ask your boss or senior manager if they think it'll help you. Otherwise its probably not worth it. I know a lot of people think they want a higher paying job and are willing to learn, the magic leap of new job after getting degree doesn't usually happen unless you have a real plan.

Re: Ask HN: How did you start higher education after 40?

#29

Unless you’re teaching don’t waste your time. To me it smells like a vanity play, unless you’re doing it so you can get another 100k per year. And yes, I can hear the people saying education is always a good thing to have. But it reminds me of so many friends who have jobs less than 100k per year in the USA and go to take a masters degree. In almost every case, the higher degree did not change the outcomes they wante…

It's not all about money. I'm not earning staggering amounts more since doing this, but I'm able to do more interesting work and I loved the experience. Life is a very sad place when everything is viewed as an item on a balance sheet.

The one thing I do agree with there is that education is overpriced in America. As a European, I'd go as far as to say it's exploitative.

That OP is considering suggests the cost, where ever they are, is at least roughly within their means.

Re: Ask HN: How did you start higher education after 40?

#30

I wanted to get a PhD in CS at 40 but was convinced by a local professor of CS that it was a waste of everyone's time and there were no jobs to be had in the academic world anyway. Shortly thereafter Google started hiring them by the truckload. I wish I had ignored him. I did have a 4 decade career as a programmer, but who knows what might have happened if I had taken the time mid-career to do the doctorate.

Ironically, CS professors and teachers are, from last I heard, in extremely high demand now because so many CS PhD grads leave for industry (and 3 or 5x the pay of academics). I don't think that was just as adjuncts either. Some universities are willing to pay way more than adjunct salaries to get CS grads with real teaching ability. I doubt you'll ever see industry competitive salaries though.
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