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Ask HN: How do I/you prep for the energy crisis in EU?

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Re: Ask HN: How do I/you prep for the energy crisis in EU?

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Are people actually going to freeze? My understanding so far is that industry will freeze (as needed) so that all the reserves can be used for people. I get a feeling that this crisis is becoming more media-gorging-on-crisis-clicks than it is an objective analysis.

France has a plan and that plan has multiple steps and phases and the last one involves some electricity blackouts for citizens but it's the very last step. So far.

France has the capability to selectively cut off some neighborhood from the grid and they plan to do 2 hours rotations if need arises.

I don't know if they are going so far as moving people out of their house to gather them in a larger building that is easier to heat.

Quite frankly, I don't expect to hear about the real plans before mid-october.

Re: Ask HN: How do I/you prep for the energy crisis in EU?

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I no longer live in the EU, but one of the habits that I've taken with me is canning. Pickles, tomatoes, green beans, etc. It just requires salt, vinegar, the veggies, and some jars (and space, obviously). Solid addition to any meal.

More on this, I grew potatoes recently in my garden and stocked them in my garage. A tote of potatoes can last a couple people for months. It requires potatoes, some sand and a cool, dark place to keep it all.

Re: Ask HN: How do I/you prep for the energy crisis in EU?

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Beyond your personal life space preparations -- build out your literal social network.

Who do you know who is old and frail and might need looking in on? Who do you know who has very young children? Who do you know who is good at cooking? Who might need food? Who can coordinate getting it to them? Who do you know who has a big enough house to host a warm potluck meal over the winter every week or so? Do you have enough people to rotate houses?

Look for what in the US is sometimes called a mutual aid group. If you don't have one: pick two friends, make one.

Re: Ask HN: How do I/you prep for the energy crisis in EU?

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Are people actually going to freeze? My understanding so far is that industry will freeze (as needed) so that all the reserves can be used for people. I get a feeling that this crisis is becoming more media-gorging-on-crisis-clicks than it is an objective analysis.

Realistically, some people might freeze. Especially older people. Every year, there elderly folk die from not being able to afford to heat their homes. This year, it'll be worse for them. It's very likely the number of old people dying due to not being able to afford heating will skyrocket.

Slovakian ministers are talking about people having to go into the woods secretly to cut down wood to set on fire. There are countries where they are fully expecting people who work for a living not being able to afford to heat their homes.

People are going to die over this.

Re: Ask HN: How do I/you prep for the energy crisis in EU?

#28
My country (Netherlands) has 80% of it's gas supplies ready to go if I can trust the news. I have just moved into a poorly insulated house but I'm not too worried. We can always move into our caravan which we can heat on 600W if really necessary but you know, perhaps some thermo underwear? I already always had the temp at 19 deg C so 17-18 should be ok with a blanket on the couch? In bed I don't mind 10 deg C.

So far, until December gas has gone up for me about 2x (now 1.67 eur/m3 or so? Whereas electricity is at 0.48/kWh, so up about 2.4 fold compared to 2 years ago), meaning about 300 eur/month for gas, ~150 for electricity which is not a real problem for us... yet... I guess for January 2023 the price may go up much higher...

Re: Ask HN: How do I/you prep for the energy crisis in EU?

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Amongst the many conceits of people like you is that there is such a thing as "enough". If only you give Putin X (Crimea, Donbas, Ukraine, Moldova, Baltics), he will calm down and everything will be alright. The only 'enough' an empire knows is when it collapses.

Where is your outrage against Israel who shell and attack the Gaza strip and who steal land from the Palestinians in the West Bank?

Where is your outrage when the USA attacks a foreign country with impunity and kills tens of thousands of "collateral damage" civillians in order to gain access to oil and gas resources or strategic trade routes or military positions?

.... all i hear is your silence

But when Russia does something to protect their border, ooooohhh, big bad russia.... must punish with useless sanctions that only hurt EU and the rest of the world.

Like the German Green Party member Annalena Baerbock who does not care if German people freeze and die in winter because a foreign countries conflict is more important than her own people.

" I will put Ukraine first “no matter what my German voters think” or how hard their life gets. "

Zelensky is a puppet for the USA and will never relinquish this failure of a war against Russia, regardless of how many Ukrainians die in the process, because 1) he is receiving essentially and endless supply of arms and military aid from the US and 2) his ego won't allow it.

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