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Ask HN: How do you and your spouse handle big income differences?

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Re: Ask HN: How do you and your spouse handle big income differences?

#21
If it's helpful, the government* considers it both of your money. If one of you racks up debts that money will go to pay for it. If you divorce, you'll split it. You two are a package deal, so all this pettiness isn't helping anything.

Use some of the money to go to therapy, both individual and couples. If you go soon enough you might save your marriage. Either way, it's probably the best investment in yourselves that's available.

*Depends where you are but certainly true in California

Re: Ask HN: How do you and your spouse handle big income differences?

#23
When my fiance and I moved in together we set up a joint bank account. All of our money goes to the joint and we give ourselves an "allowance" each month. We get the same allowance, which is plenty, and discuss large purchases from the shared pool. The main reason for the allowance is because we budget the pooled money weekly meaning that purchases aren't private. We don't need to be entirely in each others business so the allowance lets us make purchases without informing the other.

The way we think about this is that _any_ increase in either of our paychecks is a benefit for both of us. I'd love if my fiance made 10x what I did because that all comes back to benefit me too. I'm pretty easy to please though. My fiance is really into some expensive beauty products for example and we buy those out of the shared pool but I don't really care for much except having a good PC. Even if I suddenly got serious $$$ I think I'd pretty much continue doing the same stuff. I wouldn't even buy a new car.

Re: Ask HN: How do you and your spouse handle big income differences?

#24
In general, we each contribute an equal fraction of our income to a joint account. That money is "team money", from which money then flows to "team savings" and investment accounts.

If we make an expenditure out of the team accounts, it gets authorized by both of us, either explicitly (for big stuff) or through an enduring understanding (like groceries).

Non-team money lives in individual accounts, for the individual to do whatever they'd like. If one partner wants to go big on something, it is their prerogative. If one partner wants to go big on something that ultimately becomes a team item or improvement to a team asset, they can do that, too.

Works for us. We check in about it informally a couple of times a year, and definitely with an annual review.

As the lower-earner, I've definitely felt as though I'm not necessarily pulling my weight, but my partner seems happy with the arrangement. There are always asymmetries in relationships; a key may be to keep them in some sort of dynamic balance, whereby in aggregate, something good happens for everyone concerned.

Re: Ask HN: How do you and your spouse handle big income differences?

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I am currently the main provider and my wife works part time while in school. All money is our money no matter who earned it. It’s never been a point of debate or emotions other than “oh we got more money this month, cool!” in the event of a bonus or extra income. We have a budget and try to stick to it and have occasional vacations or upgrade something in the house. When it comes to finances we are a single unit and…

Yeah similar situation here... it was just never an issue or a conversation really.

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Re: Ask HN: How do you and your spouse handle big income differences?

#26
What's worked well for us is to adopt the framing that both of our time is equally morally valuable, if not equally financially valuable. One hour of my life spend doing work for pay is worth one our of her life spent doing work for pay.

We've operationalized this as: 1. Determine how much we want/need to spend on joint things (groceries, mortgage, vacation fund, etc)., call this B for budget. 2. Look at how much we're each making, M for me and H for her. 3. Find the fraction of our money X (which is roughly speaking equivalent to fraction of hours worked in our case) Such that XM + XH = B 4. We each contribute our respective portion to a joint account, and pay for all joint things out of the joint account. 5. We each keep the rest of our money in our own accounts, to do with whatever we like.

You might need to add a couple of terms to account for different work schedules.

Knowing that we're both contributing equal _effort_ to everything makes the inequalities (I contribute more to shared stuff, but also have a bigger personal discretionary budget) not seem like such an issue.

Re: Ask HN: How do you and your spouse handle big income differences?

#27
My wife and I each have our own personal bank accounts and one shared joint account. All shared expenses (mortgage, utilities, internet, Netflix, groceries etc.) come from the joint account. We each manage our own retirement and personal expenses. We both send a portion of our paychecks to the joint account every month that covers the shared expenses. We each can do whatever we want with the money in our personal accounts.

Since I am making significantly more than my wife these days I always pay for meals out, movies, etc. It's worked for us for about 12 years now.

Re: Ask HN: How do you and your spouse handle big income differences?

#28
When we started ten years ago we agreed all future money would be shared, and require discussion before spending on something big (but with an assumption of fair dealing).

We originally had a weekly allowance - booze money - when we weren’t making much for meals out/seeing friends but in the last couple years just use the joint credit card for that stuff since relative to our other expenditures it’s nothing.

Now we reinvest all my RSUs in trackers, and have a monthly spending goal that’s 20% less than our combined salaries that lets us save money for vacations and house stuff without hitting investments. Bonuses and stuff like we treat as “fuck it” money.

My hobbies are way more expensive than hers, so we do have discussions about stuff quite often, but it’s never been a problem - usually I just have to wait until a big enough bonus comes along if it’s something dumb like my project car.

Maybe it helps that when we started I was making 4x less than her and am now making 4x more.

Re: Ask HN: How do you and your spouse handle big income differences?

#29
In case of divorce that “rainy fund” will be split 50:50 so it is not really her money - at least not from the point of view of law.

I guess this is tricky situation and marriage counseling might help here. They say that finances are the main reason for divorce but it is the least important one.

Re: Ask HN: How do you and your spouse handle big income differences?

#30
This is a real tough one.

I have lived this and my best advice is that you should be equal partners. From personal experience, each partner contributes different strengths and abilities. Money is easy to divide and represents life energy but there is more to a partnership.

Equal partners does not mean exactly the same effort. Do you split the household chores exactly 50%? Probably not. I look at this in the same light.

Also, circumstances change. Right now your wife is making more money. If she suddenly got laid off, would you support her with "your" money? (Yes.) If one of you got an inheritance, would that be carved off and only spendable by the inheritor? (No.) If you got a sizable gift from your parents, would it be yours singular or yours plural (plural). If she had a kiddo and wanted to stay home, would you support her with "your" money? (Yes.)

As far as nuts and bolts, talk about goals, talk about frustrations, talk about the challenges. There are financial counselors out there: https://www.nytimes.com/2022/08/13/business/financial-therap... they might be helpful. Or a straight up marriage counselor.

Compromise. Maybe there are things that your wife wants to buy that she feels like she should be able to. That should be a compromise and discussion because she wants to be in partnership with you.

Things to avoid:

   * hidden bank accounts
   * ignoring this issue
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