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Re: Ask HN: HN is gone, now what?

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I started on digg, hackaday and slashdot, before moving here when those services crumbled (afaict had is still going strong, my interests changed a bit though! I think if yc fell, communities may segregate a bit into different interest groups. I’m sure there’s a few yc quality subreddit’s also, If you can stand the user hostile ux

>If you can stand the user hostile ux

old.reddit.com is still available, which is only slightly user hostile. There's a setting to default to it if you're logged in, otherwise it's pretty trivial to either install an extension or write a userscript to automatically redirect you to that subdomain.

Re: Ask HN: HN is gone, now what?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Drop an email in your HN profile, I'm sure someone will send you an invite. I find the quantity of comments on lobste.rs to be lacking compared to HN, they are much higher quality but there's not a lot of discussion for some reason.

Funny to see a complaint about comment quality when your comment is effectively a restatement of what parent comment said. Not trying to be rude of course, I do this myself occasionally (my editing skills are bad on mobile in particular), but to me it’s obvious that fewer comments increases the signal-to-noise ratio.

I consider your critique of the comment entirely invalid, given that he didn't complain about quality, he complained about quantity.

He complimented the quality.

Re: Ask HN: HN is gone, now what?

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lobste.rs

Interesting, I haven’t heard of this before. It seems like to create an account to you an invite?

You can ask around, I'm sure someone will be kind enough to send you one. I've personally never received one but I would like one

Re: Ask HN: HN is gone, now what?

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Lobste.rs. It's much more focused on tech/programming and the discussions there (although very few comments) often lead me to discovering new things. Although that part of it also sucks a bit because you can't comment if you're not an invited member (which I'm not). Many of the articles are found on HN first, but some are easier to see there because the front-page doesn't change as much as HN.

Drop an email in your HN profile, I'm sure someone will send you an invite. I find the quantity of comments on lobste.rs to be lacking compared to HN, they are much higher quality but there's not a lot of discussion for some reason.

> but there's not a lot of discussion for some reason

I mean... this is directly related to accounts being invite only.

It's a bit of a catch-22, the less friction to comment, the lower the quality but the higher the quantity.

Generally (let me preface: I do like HN as a whole) I dislike vote based or algorithmically driven discussion platforms. Vote based eventually ends up with the site having a certain inherent 'culture', and any comment not fitting in will at most get mildly upvoted and usually just ends up downvoted and collapsed / greyed out. Algorithmically driven, the engagement factor eventually just crowds out any other metric for valuing comments.

I like the setup of image boards (discussion boards?) the most. By default, everyone comments anonymously. Votes don't exist. There is no way to gain reputation points. Your post or comment stands on its own merit. Boring or (most) bait interaction get ignored whilst high quality interaction gets bumped to the front page more often. (Don't let 4Chan's two most infamous boards color your opinion for most other boards)

My personal perfect platform would be the imageboard way for content valuation and Reddit's old UI / UX.

Re: Ask HN: HN is gone, now what?

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post #8

Lobste.rs. It's much more focused on tech/programming and the discussions there (although very few comments) often lead me to discovering new things. Although that part of it also sucks a bit because you can't comment if you're not an invited member (which I'm not). Many of the articles are found on HN first, but some are easier to see there because the front-page doesn't change as much as HN.

Drop an email in your HN profile, I'm sure someone will send you an invite. I find the quantity of comments on lobste.rs to be lacking compared to HN, they are much higher quality but there's not a lot of discussion for some reason.

I think part of it is Lobsters has an "average karma per comment / post" feature which means Lobsters users usually don't post a lot of "wow!" or "thank you!" comments and instead prefer to speak up when they feel something substantive is meriting attention. I've posted threads there that were #1 for a day and got like two comments. I've seen other smaller threads I've posted explode with comments when, for instance, there was a weakness in my project's design. It makes Lobsters a hard crowd to please, although the important thing to understand is they actually still love you. The website design just has different incentives for discussion.
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