There is a thing called Topographical Disorientation [0]. Totally not saying you have it. Could it be on the autism spectrum? I do not know. I have always been very bad at navigating. Remembering a location takes others 1-3 visits, where it takes me 8-12. I have actually counted. I am extremely bad at navigating to places and even at remembering the directions to previously visited locations. I do not have ADHD, I ca…
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#22Earlier quoted context omitted.
OP here. No matter how hard I try, I just can't get it until I make frequent visits from 'different sides' to a location. I didn't even know about Topographical Disorientation, but it really hits home. Anecdotally speaking, I always apologize to people around me saying that, "I think I don't have the location module in my brain".
Yes. Same goes with me. My partner and parents know that I have this. I don't tell it to others. I also go to the same location through many roads, but only once I have one etched into my mind. I have to use G-Maps 7-8 times for visiting the same location if there are even days-wide gaps. I am also bad at getting directions in maps. I have to orient and reorient one multiple times to figure out where I am, which way…
It's inconvenient for some things, like carpooling, and it can annoy close others to "never remember." Even if I try to focus on getting somewhere, attention never lasts for long.
I've tried heuristics and patterns, like "if I exited the highway and turned left, I need to turn right and merge to return home." But none seems to stick. I forget if I needed to turn left or right out of the retail place!
And this is a long way of saying I had to quit games like CounterStrike because of it, unable to really keep up with siblings and so on, so a part of my identity is wrapped up in this disorientation mode. I ask them how they "avoid getting lost," and to them it's second nature. They were already experts in it.
Maybe there is a better algorithm to orient oneself, something like when we need to print and "see all the env vars," to make it _so concrete_ (like Dr. Ng likes to say), that _now_ we can get to the heart of the problem we were working on.
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#23Leave your phone at home and go bicycling. Worst case, you can ask someone for directions because everyone else will have a maps app.
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#24If your problem is only that your spatial awareness was never exercised enough, you should quickly get better.
You'll quickly get tired of checking your map for the route every 10 steps, which will force you to choose easier routes, and to memorize them better, improving your navigation too.
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#25Such as a small Silva Lanyard.
Not the app on your phone because then you will be distracted by Hacker News.
Good luck.
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#26Earlier quoted context omitted.
Yes. Same goes with me. My partner and parents know that I have this. I don't tell it to others. I also go to the same location through many roads, but only once I have one etched into my mind. I have to use G-Maps 7-8 times for visiting the same location if there are even days-wide gaps. I am also bad at getting directions in maps. I have to orient and reorient one multiple times to figure out where I am, which way…
Thank-you, throwaway account and OP. It looks like "8" is a magic number--I tell others it takes me that many times of repeating to get around without GPS. It's inconvenient for some things, like carpooling, and it can annoy close others to "never remember." Even if I try to focus on getting somewhere, attention never lasts for long. I've tried heuristics and patterns, like "if I exited the highway and turned left, I…
I play only occasionally, and never the competitive sorts. I play CoD, Factorio, Age of Empires, etc. Played some Vice City, GTA-V back in the day.
In VC, GTA-V, I could never remember even the most common roads.
I always found myself looking at the map at the corner much more than the main screen when I needed to get anywhere.
If I played the competitive sorts, maybe I would discovered that I suck at those, too.
But when navigating IRL, I am a responsible driver, an alert "walker". Yet I never comprehend directions.
In the city, I always end up using the longer route than the shorter one, through more common and active places, because I know them more. I end up using the longer route most of the time. I have some "anchor points" in the city, and I always navigate through them, because I know those routes more. I don't risk other routes.
Today, I could not even recognize the route I just went through- when making the return trip (two hours stay). I had to ask around for directions. (Not my city)
Yet, besides this, my life is totally normal. Weird.
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#28https://wiki.civtak.org/index.php?title=Getting_Started#Over...
Overview This is a tutorial to help you go from "Zero to Hero" (or perhaps zero to competent user?) on ATAK-Civ. ATAK is a very powerful, enterprise-quality collaborative geospatial situational awareness (SA) tool. That is, it helps you get around like any mapping tool (e.g. Google Maps), but it has a tremendous amount of additional functionality and it is very extensible, though most of the plugins developed either at Government expense or for Government use, are not released to the public. ATAK is much more powerful and easier to use when used in conjunction with a server. See Server options below.
Time Expectation If you have a device configured with ATAK already, it takes about fifteen minutes to get the basics squared away. If you are coming into this fresh, it may take you a couple hours to configure a device and learn your way around.
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#29Try navigating using the ATAK app, it can pull in maps and topology- https://wiki.civtak.org/index.php?title=Getting_Started#Over... Overview This is a tutorial to help you go from "Zero to Hero" (or perhaps zero to competent user?) on ATAK-Civ. ATAK is a very powerful, enterprise-quality collaborative geospatial situational awareness (SA) tool. That is, it helps you get around like any mapping tool (e.g. Google Maps…
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#30Start simple. What will guide you in the right direction. The path, street, river, giant arrows, etc.
What will you see if you are heading the right direction /almost there. The third street on the left, a pub, park etc.
What will catch you if you go too far. A big intersection, a prominent building, water, etc.