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You would usually need to disable DNSSEC, wait 24h, transfer, and then wait for at least 24h before enabling DNSSEC again.
Are there any case where DNSSEC can be kept enabled? I though it need to be disabled for transferring.
Ask HN: Cloudflare broke my domain's DNSSEC making it unreachable since 4 days
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Re: Ask HN: Cloudflare broke my domain's DNSSEC making it unreachable since 4 days
#22Earlier quoted context omitted.
From a site reliability perspective HTTPS is still broken. Some 15yo OS can't access any site because it doesn't have the certificates or cipher suites. And as you mentioned we need to update certs, webservers and DNS all the time to keep up to date. We only put up with it because it protects users from from snoopers. But that means we live in an inadequate equilibrium. If we abolished mass surveillance rather than i…
> If we abolished mass surveillance then we wouldn't need encryption for read-only sites, we could have our cake and eat it too. Mass surveillance is not the only reason to have HTTPS everywhere. It protects not just from snoopers, but from MITM attacks.
Re: Ask HN: Cloudflare broke my domain's DNSSEC making it unreachable since 4 days
#23-- removed. My apologies. --
My domain and users have ended up in limbo beyond anyone's but Cloudflare's control. I cannot transfer it back to the working registrar, or I would without being "angry at some free service". Why do you think berating me with snide remarks is helpful?
It's still pretty early days for DNSSEC, if you're going to use it it's worthwhile to know a lot about it. Just look at the several Slack outages caused by their attempts to implement it. Eventually the tooling will catch up, and registrars will all give you warnings about moving DNS and registration and the importance of syncing up your keys but we just aren't there yet.
Re: Ask HN: Cloudflare broke my domain's DNSSEC making it unreachable since 4 days
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You would usually need to disable DNSSEC, wait 24h, transfer, and then wait for at least 24h before enabling DNSSEC again.
Thanks for the info, I'll keep it in mind for eventual future transfers. But shouldn't I be able to disable DNSSEC regardless, instead of the domain being stuck in limbo and hijacked by what appears to be a deadlock type of bug?
Re: Ask HN: Cloudflare broke my domain's DNSSEC making it unreachable since 4 days
#25Earlier quoted context omitted.
From a site reliability perspective HTTPS is still broken. Some 15yo OS can't access any site because it doesn't have the certificates or cipher suites. And as you mentioned we need to update certs, webservers and DNS all the time to keep up to date. We only put up with it because it protects users from from snoopers. But that means we live in an inadequate equilibrium. If we abolished mass surveillance rather than i…
Do you think criminals care about the law?
Re: Ask HN: Cloudflare broke my domain's DNSSEC making it unreachable since 4 days
#26Earlier quoted context omitted.
> If we abolished mass surveillance then we wouldn't need encryption for read-only sites, we could have our cake and eat it too. Mass surveillance is not the only reason to have HTTPS everywhere. It protects not just from snoopers, but from MITM attacks.
Did you notice the "read only sites" part? MITM is hardly relevant for those.
Re: Ask HN: Cloudflare broke my domain's DNSSEC making it unreachable since 4 days
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It like https. A lot of people in the past viewed HTTPS as a terrible idea that just broke things, and every example where someone had their website go down because of broken certificates or mixed content was proof that https as a concept was broken. Usually people brought up x.509 or revocation lists as the definitive proof that https would never be common.
From a site reliability perspective HTTPS is still broken. Some 15yo OS can't access any site because it doesn't have the certificates or cipher suites. And as you mentioned we need to update certs, webservers and DNS all the time to keep up to date. We only put up with it because it protects users from from snoopers. But that means we live in an inadequate equilibrium. If we abolished mass surveillance rather than i…
Re: Ask HN: Cloudflare broke my domain's DNSSEC making it unreachable since 4 days
#28> what's the fastest way to get technical assistance when on a free plan? Upgrading to a non-free plan? You don't have to upgrade to enterprise, but even their $20/mo plan comes with support. (Also, I hate to victim-blame here but using DNSSEC was a bad idea in the first place)
Why was enabling DNSSEC a bad idea? Clearly the origin registrar isn't handling DNSSEC requests properly, but the OP should still be able to revert to non-DNSSEC without issues.
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#30Earlier quoted context omitted.
You would usually need to disable DNSSEC, wait 24h, transfer, and then wait for at least 24h before enabling DNSSEC again.
Are there any case where DNSSEC can be kept enabled? I though it need to be disabled for transferring.