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Ask HN: Why can't Germany just go cold turkey and turn off Russian Gas?

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Re: Ask HN: Why can't Germany just go cold turkey and turn off Russian Gas?

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ratsforhorses wrote: post #20
theGeatZhopa wrote: post #17

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You're warmly welcome. It's not about patriotism - which is also the very reason for conflicts of the times. It's just, that one should not rely upon the health of others. Germany realized that a long time ago. Did a lot to curb up their economical Situation and doing some serious reforms. Also, the whole people think in terms like "we're a social democracy". Other EU-members, like the Southerns, they did not realize…

Atm I don't know how to answer, history itself is writing on the wall, I just came across Charlie Chaplin's last speech from the dictator and think it quite relevant "I’m sorry, but I don’t want to be an emperor. That’s not my business. I don’t want to rule or conquer anyone. I should like to help everyone - if possible - Jew, Gentile - black man - white. We all want to help one another. Human beings are like that. W…

Nice! Good say!

Re: Ask HN: Why can't Germany just go cold turkey and turn off Russian Gas?

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Post by fivelessminutes »

ggm wrote: post #6
fivelessminutes wrote: post #5

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There are other sources of power and gas... Biden said he will 'surge' supplies to Europe... in the medium term they can just write russia out of the equation and stop bankrolling the war.

They have to recommission gas handling facilities, industrial plant takes months to bring back from mothballing and worldwide gas consumption is longterm contracts. Even just hiring a gas tanker takes months. If they declare force majure and seized a boat to ship now, there would be hell to pay for some other consumer.

They decided to shut down two nuclear power plants, then reversed the decision due to putin's war.

So they can make big inroads into their static gas consumption by rolling with that and shutting down some or all of their gas power stations instead... it seems they have options to trim their usage to the point they can prepare for winter without funding their own security threat.

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