Ask HN: What Happened to Evernote? • Hacker News Board

Re: Ask HN: What Happened to Evernote?

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Post by [deleted] » Sun, Apr 10, 2022, 10:14 AM UTC

130e13a wrote: post #5

srvmshr wrote: post #3

Why don't you try Notion. Seriously, it feels so much better IMHO, with atomic rollback and you can export your data out in a non-proprietary format (MD, HTML, PDF) if it comes to difficult choices someday.

I tried getting into Notion a while ago (~ 6 months) and ultimately stopped using it, due to general UI responsiveness issues and their lack of a full offline mode. Really liked the product, though. I think they're working on offline support so i'm planning to check it out again when that is added. Edit: looked into this a bit more and they promised offline support "soon" as far back as 2018 so maybe it'd be a good i…

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Re: Ask HN: What Happened to Evernote?

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Post by oblio » Sun, Apr 10, 2022, 10:14 AM UTC

hoppyhoppy2 wrote: post #8

hwers wrote: post #4

Feels like both the comments in here are paid for by Notion somehow.

From the HN commenting guidelines: > Please don't post insinuations about astroturfing, shilling, bots, brigading, foreign agents and the like. It degrades discussion and is usually mistaken. If you're worried about abuse, email hn@ycombinator.com and we'll look at the data. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html *

Yeah, that kind of died the day this was published:

https://about.gitlab.com/handbook/marketing/corporate-market...

Gitlab said out loud what we were all thinking: companies have automation in place to follow big communities such as HN and notify their developer evangelists and marketing teams and have them reply and create "buzz". Aka, shills :-)

Re: Ask HN: What Happened to Evernote?

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Post by Oxodao » Sun, Apr 10, 2022, 10:14 AM UTC

130e13a wrote: post #5

srvmshr wrote: post #3

Why don't you try Notion. Seriously, it feels so much better IMHO, with atomic rollback and you can export your data out in a non-proprietary format (MD, HTML, PDF) if it comes to difficult choices someday.

I tried getting into Notion a while ago (~ 6 months) and ultimately stopped using it, due to general UI responsiveness issues and their lack of a full offline mode. Really liked the product, though. I think they're working on offline support so i'm planning to check it out again when that is added. Edit: looked into this a bit more and they promised offline support "soon" as far back as 2018 so maybe it'd be a good i…

Yeah, I'm using Notion a lot but offline support is really a missing feature. Whenever I'm on a train and want to use it I just can't, it's a real issue, but it's still a good piece of software. Though I'd really like to find a self-hosted alternative that is just as good..

Re: Ask HN: What Happened to Evernote?

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Post by weird-eye-issue » Sun, Apr 10, 2022, 10:16 AM UTC

savolai wrote: post #16

weird-eye-issue wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Notion has a strangely huge and fanatic fan base so it's not surprising It's like a cult

There are two cults: * those who appreciate effortless UX that doesn't ask users to dedicate their lives to learning arcane systems i.e. CLI UIs but allow focusing on life outside computers. Notion is indeed a step forward for the industry for them. * those who appreciate the responsiveness of CLI and don't mind the learning curve since the investment for them is worth the price. For them, Notion probably doesn't giv…

You're just rambling... I can't even tell what you are trying to say. Slow down

Re: Ask HN: What Happened to Evernote?

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Post by jmchuster » Sun, Apr 10, 2022, 10:16 AM UTC

srvmshr wrote: post #3

Why don't you try Notion. Seriously, it feels so much better IMHO, with atomic rollback and you can export your data out in a non-proprietary format (MD, HTML, PDF) if it comes to difficult choices someday.

I highly dislike the recent changes in Evernote, so i just tried importing my notebook into Notion, and uh, it's kinda horrendous. The massive amount of margin (going from 850px of usable width to 600px is unconscionable), having to click three times to open a page, having to click another three times to see my list of pages (that used to be 0 clicks), how it handles newlines.

Re: Ask HN: What Happened to Evernote?

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Post by thesimp » Sun, Apr 10, 2022, 10:17 AM UTC

As a long time Evernote user I can say that the move from Evernote 6.x to the 10.x version has been a bit of a rough ride. I still use Evernote everyday because I did not find any other note taking tools that fit my workflow. And changing workflows ingrained over many years takes a lot of effort.

Then again there are some very irritating things in the new Evernote 10.x versions of which I am constantly thinking: "are they using this feature themselves or am I the only one?".

For example:

* try to move a note to a different notebook. You would thing that the obvious thing to do would be to click on the current notebook name that is shown above the note and then it drops down a list. But no.... You have to hover over the current notebook name, then a _hidden_ button becomes visible, that you have to click and then you can move the note.

* copy&pasting you tube links always shows a videoclip preview. I never want that, I copy and paste a link because I want to save a link thank you very much.

*search through a stack of notebooks still does not work. You can only search through one notebook at a time or through every note.

Re: Ask HN: What Happened to Evernote?

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Post by weird-eye-issue » Sun, Apr 10, 2022, 10:17 AM UTC

molszanski wrote: post #15

weird-eye-issue wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Notion has a strangely huge and fanatic fan base so it's not surprising It's like a cult

There are a few cults :D - Notion Nation - Roam Legion - Zettelkasten Zealots - Bear Bros PS. Add more ;)

It's even worse than I thought

Re: Ask HN: What Happened to Evernote?

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Post by [deleted] » Sun, Apr 10, 2022, 10:17 AM UTC

hoppyhoppy2 wrote: post #8

hwers wrote: post #4

Feels like both the comments in here are paid for by Notion somehow.

From the HN commenting guidelines: > Please don't post insinuations about astroturfing, shilling, bots, brigading, foreign agents and the like. It degrades discussion and is usually mistaken. If you're worried about abuse, email hn@ycombinator.com and we'll look at the data. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html *

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Re: Ask HN: What Happened to Evernote?

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Post by morituri » Sun, Apr 10, 2022, 10:18 AM UTC

molszanski wrote: post #15

weird-eye-issue wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Notion has a strangely huge and fanatic fan base so it's not surprising It's like a cult

There are a few cults :D - Notion Nation - Roam Legion - Zettelkasten Zealots - Bear Bros PS. Add more ;)

Obsidian Ocelots?

Re: Ask HN: What Happened to Evernote?

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Post by DangerousPie » Sun, Apr 10, 2022, 10:18 AM UTC

Maybe this is just me getting old, but I feel like Evernote has only gotten worse since I started using it over 10 years ago. Back then it was just a list of notes with some formatting and sync capabilities - perfect.

These days they have added all these extra features which I don't need, and which have made the whole app slow and terribly clunky. When I use the iPad app it takes several seconds to load notes or search, and the UI keeps jumping around if it hasn't loaded completely yet. Terrible experience.

The icing on the cake is that they changed the welcome page of the app to no longer show the list of notes - and if you want to edit the page to get that list back, you have to sign up to their premium subscription! And I'm already paying too, just not for the right level of subscription apparently.

I have been meaning to find an alternative for months now, so if anyone has any suggestions please do let me know! The most important features to me are note syncing across iOS/Mac/Windows and the ability to import my notes from Evernote.