And Apple. In fact especially Apple.
And GNU/Linux and the BSDs while we’re at it
Yes, because there's no good reason to prefer GNU/Linux or the BSDs for security reasons. They're just as bad as Windows and macOS!
Ask HN: Is it reasonable to ban Windows OS from our workplace?
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Re: Ask HN: Is it reasonable to ban Windows OS from our workplace?
#22It's not only reasonable it should be the norm.
Re: Ask HN: Is it reasonable to ban Windows OS from our workplace?
#23If existing employees are already using Windows, then no, it's not reasonable.
Re: Ask HN: Is it reasonable to ban Windows OS from our workplace?
#24Windows is not going anywhere anytime soon. If you take away windows, you will lose out on many technologies. And just because people complain about windows, doesn't mean they can actually do anything about it. And if you can do something about it, you're probably a criminal learning ways to exploit the software.
Re: Ask HN: Is it reasonable to ban Windows OS from our workplace?
#25In my last 40 years of jobs only one job had windows in its workplace. lots of Linux and embedded devices though, so it was not as embarrassing. windows shops do 10 less in 10 more time, but this is big cooperate.
Re: Ask HN: Is it reasonable to ban Windows OS from our workplace?
#26Yes if you have legal or finance staff; their workflows rely heavily on the Windows versions of Office. Google tried and were unable to do it, FYI. Also, I'm not a huge fan of Windows anymore, but it's device management capabilities via Active Directory and Intune are far and away the best in class. Yes, Windows suffers from success (by way of getting targeted for exploits all of the time), but it is really really ea…
What functionality do they rely so heavily in Office that makes it irreplaceable? Some VBA monstrosity? Or is it just muscle memory?
Re: Ask HN: Is it reasonable to ban Windows OS from our workplace?
#27Seems like a pretty slippery slope, to me. Not only would you turn away potential employees (and risk angering some current hires), you'd have to try defending MacOS and Linux with the same arguments. Unless you're deploying to an XServe, you're setting yourself up with a double standard that seems pretty indefensible. I say that as someone who hates Windows with a passion, and hasn't used it in years.
Well, since XServe machines were only produced through 2010 I'd say it'd be tough to deploy with XServe regardless...
Re: Ask HN: Is it reasonable to ban Windows OS from our workplace?
#28Seems like a pretty slippery slope, to me. Not only would you turn away potential employees (and risk angering some current hires), you'd have to try defending MacOS and Linux with the same arguments. Unless you're deploying to an XServe, you're setting yourself up with a double standard that seems pretty indefensible. I say that as someone who hates Windows with a passion, and hasn't used it in years.
Well, since XServe machines were only produced through 2010 I'd say it'd be tough to deploy with XServe regardless...
Precisely.
Re: Ask HN: Is it reasonable to ban Windows OS from our workplace?
#29Yes if you have legal or finance staff; their workflows rely heavily on the Windows versions of Office. Google tried and were unable to do it, FYI. Also, I'm not a huge fan of Windows anymore, but it's device management capabilities via Active Directory and Intune are far and away the best in class. Yes, Windows suffers from success (by way of getting targeted for exploits all of the time), but it is really really ea…
What functionality do they rely so heavily in Office that makes it irreplaceable? Some VBA monstrosity? Or is it just muscle memory?
I bet it's just the ability to edit docx files that third parties send over, without losing any details/features/fidelity or the markup going to shit. Esp docx files that are terrible turds internally (the ones with layers and layers of conflicting formatting settings, hit enter somewhere and everything changes etc) is hard to import into eg Google Docs without the internal turdness showing on the outside.