Comply with the law, don't gather unnecessary PII and poof - no need for popups.
Ask HN: GDPR pop-ups are getting so annying, what should we do about it?
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Re: Ask HN: GDPR pop-ups are getting so annying, what should we do about it?
#22Earlier quoted context omitted.
Is this an indictment and is it fair to say GDPR is a poorly implemented regulation? I am a pro-privacy advocate but like those cancer warning labels in California, I always accept cookies and move on. Billions of people spend a few seconds everyday clicking on these cookie banners. What would be the economic damage vs. privacy benefits? I appreciate what companies like Apple does with regards to privacy because it a…
GDPR does not mandate those pop-ups, most of them are not compliant and only exist as a way to try pretend to comply with the law.
Is explicit consent mandated?
Between the GDPR and other cookie laws, explicit consent for each specific use is required, as far as I understand. If so, pop-ups are an unavoidable consequence because, again, websites don't really want to ask you they want you to consent (obviously since they rely on this)
Re: Ask HN: GDPR pop-ups are getting so annying, what should we do about it?
#23I just put an ip-address to country list in my middleware and block all the GDPR countries. Now I have no issue with popups or cookies. Honestly, I'd like to see more people follow that. I got the idea from others and it seems like a perfect solution. People who can't/don't want cookies cannot really use any site I've ever worked on. It makes no sense building things for people who won't ever be customers.
It must be really odious for you to respect the people that use your website. Thank you for removing yourself.
Here's the thing. The GDPR isn't really that great a set of rules. It's too vague, and really hard to manage.
I do however treasure privacy rights. That's why I don't use cloud flare. It blocks TOR, and many VPN's.
I've almost built my site to favour those methods of privacy, and I highly recommend them to people
I have paid the price of being on TOR often enough. Heaps of sights are beyond my reach.
People have the right to avoid cookies, but those rights come at a cost.
Oddly most of my users are from the EU, they just use VPN's
Re: Ask HN: GDPR pop-ups are getting so annying, what should we do about it?
#24These pop-ups are making it hard to enjoy the Internet, what do you suggest to do to get rid of these pop-ups? Embrace them. Learn to love them. They're a good feature . Making websites explicitly require permission to do (subjectively) negative things like tracking users is a massively positive step in the right direction towards us all having ownership and agency over of our lives as we spend time online. Sure, it…
> "Eurgh! I had to click a button again! I'd sacrifice my privacy not to have to do that any more!" is a really bad take in my opinion.
I assume you don't surf in incognito mode. The collective amount of hours wasted clicking those popups must be enormous.
Re: Ask HN: GDPR pop-ups are getting so annying, what should we do about it?
#25We need Google to stop showing sites like these in their results.
The user experience is shit so don't send them any traffic.
Re: Ask HN: GDPR pop-ups are getting so annying, what should we do about it?
#26Earlier quoted context omitted.
GDPR does not mandate those pop-ups, most of them are not compliant and only exist as a way to try pretend to comply with the law.
I didn't say it’s a mandate. It’s a terrible side effect and a loop hole. The second part of my comment is about businesses going though GDPR checklists. I did one for my firm. It’s not too bad but if you read the entire GDPR booklet, there are varying levels of adherence to GDPR. Most small businesses check off things but the boots-on-the-ground effects are negligible. On the other hand, you could technically be lia…
In general GDPR are enforced across the board. But there are so many websites and companies that there are no resources to check everyone if a breach is not brought to the attention of the relevant authority.
Re: Ask HN: GDPR pop-ups are getting so annying, what should we do about it?
#27I think they are ugly, clumsy and annoying because the companies that are forced to show them resent that and want it to fail. It feels like they’re saying to me “Look at this horrible thing I’m forced to present to you, I’m not letting you read what you’re here for until you go through the most annoying way of responding”
It should be a browser feature but chrome has dominant market share and why would they do anything in the interests of their users’ data security (which of course jeopardises their adtech empire).
We need a better browser…. Don’t say Firefox. Brave could be it I suppose.
Re: Ask HN: GDPR pop-ups are getting so annying, what should we do about it?
#28Comply with the law, don't gather unnecessary PII and poof - no need for popups.
But but but …every company needs all possible data about you because of “legitimate business interests”!
Re: Ask HN: GDPR pop-ups are getting so annying, what should we do about it?
#29I think what we can do about it is exactly what you've been doing: close the sites that purposefully make them obnoxious. The GDPR does not require these consent prompts to be this horrible. Websites make them that way to annoy users into getting mad at the privacy legislation _and_ also just click "Allow" by default to get to the content. Any website that uses such tactics is not a website I'm interested in using.
Bingo. Well said
Re: Ask HN: GDPR pop-ups are getting so annying, what should we do about it?
#30They’re not necessary unless you’re doing non-annoymised tracking, like, for example, using the Devil’s Spawn that is Facebook Pixel. If websites are doing this, and asking you to consent they need to be punished - hit the back button and boycott them forever. It’s completely unnecessary - the web would be a so much better place is we all did this.
How are you going to boycott the entire internet? Most websites I visit show this pop up and it’s more convenient to just click ok than to move to 5 different screens and waste another 30 seconds. This is what happens when you don’t address every aspect of side effects when making the law. People get accustomed to it just like those California cancer warning labels that are basically useless and nothing but a waste.
> Most websites I visit show this pop up and it’s more convenient to just click ok than to move to 5 different screens and waste another 30 seconds
So they don't comply with the law. People working for these sites choose to make this difficult and harder than its supposed to be.