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Ask HN: My boss doesn't think I'm doing good work, how to proceed?

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Re: Ask HN: My boss doesn't think I'm doing good work, how to proceed?

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Start sending out resumes, sounds like a dysfunctional management structure, probably wont get better and you'll be happier somewhere else. If a lateral transfer seems possible, tell HR you would like be transferred out of your manager's boss's org structure. Go above manager's boss's head and file a complaint against them for incompetence and unreasonable expectations: blaming workers for delays caused by poor proje…

I'd advise against this. In many companies HR sides with management if he works for one of these companies HR could even report what you say to them directly to your manager. Be very very careful about this.

Re: Ask HN: My boss doesn't think I'm doing good work, how to proceed?

#24
> Part of the reason it had taken so long is because I put a substantial amount of work into a part of the project that's no longer necessary due to changing requirements, which I don't think I could have forseen.

One of the things that I've experienced with new grad junior devs is that there's an adjustment needed to change from academic working to business working. In academia, usually the professor gives an assignment and you have to go off and figure it out, without bothering the professor, no matter what. In business, it's much better to 'bother the professor' regularly and check in affirmatively on whether the assignment has changed, or to tell the manager about challenges that arise to re-plan together. As a junior employee, you're not going to know the full business context of what makes sense, and checking in can save weeks of time that would otherwise be spent off on your own.

Not sure if that's the case here, but certainly something you could consider going forwards to prevent similar situations.

Re: Ask HN: My boss doesn't think I'm doing good work, how to proceed?

#25
Get another job. Your management wants to Design and write code like the past. If they’re criticizing now it’ll never end and you will eventually be fired. I would get another job and just walk with zero notice. They won’t do you any favors in the future.

Re: Ask HN: My boss doesn't think I'm doing good work, how to proceed?

#26
A few takeaways from an old-timer here:

> First, he basically tells me this project should have been finished a long time ago and he can't believe it's taken this long etc. I had no idea that he felt this way before the meeting - I've mostly just been working to get it done before the revised deadline my manager gave me.

You need to communicate, build relationships, and get feedback from many people in the organization. One of those people is your manager's manager.

> He looks at the code and criticizes design decisions, some of which were made largely on my manager's explicit suggestions.

It may be the case that your manager is wrong, his design suggestions were dumb, etc. Or, it may not. This is one reason you need to get feedback from people other than your manager.

> Part of the reason it had taken so long is because I put a substantial amount of work into a part of the project that's no longer necessary due to changing requirements, which I don't think I could have forseen.

Use this as a learning experience. Do not put work into things that may or may not be needed. The correct way to tackle a big project with changing requirements is to get something working end-to-end, possibly with a whole lot of copy and paste, hacks, hardcoded stuff instead of configuration, whatever. Then, when it is doing what it supposed to do, go back and improve it, rinse and repeat. Do not put lots of work into one part if other parts are missing, non-existent, and the project doesn't work end-to-end.

> For instance he said I should have looked at other projects to see how they accomplished what I'm trying to do.

This is great advice. It is often the case that if you ask the right question/person, someone will say "oh, yeah, I already did that, here's the code." or "I tried that last year, and it didn't work". Or, they might not, but the only way is to ask around, talk to people. This also goes back to the first point, build relationships with people other than your manager, because your manager doesn't know everything, and is probably wrong about a bunch of stuff.

Re: Ask HN: My boss doesn't think I'm doing good work, how to proceed?

#27
There are a couple assumptions you're making here. For instance the firing (from your perspective likely but will they really?). Take a step back and take stock of the situation.

Communicate with your manager. Your manager not being there in that meeting definitely didn't do you any favors. Make sure the both of your are on the same page. They should have been there to deflect. Be proactive about communicating and making sure everyone is in alignment. Easier said than done especially if the company is smaller or the manager is busy. But a 20 minute time investment per week will be worth it.

Figure out why this happened. Figure out what can be fixed and move on. But be vigilant because that kind of behavior is frankly uncalled for. On the other hand getting a new job in this market should not be too hard.

Re: Ask HN: My boss doesn't think I'm doing good work, how to proceed?

#30
Welcome to adulthood it sucks, youre gonna love it.

If you manage to find a workplace that does not sport atleast one manager that does this, consider yourself lucky.

My advice, look for truths in what he said ( I am sure he was correct on some aspect somewhere ) and work on that. Ignore the rest and move on.

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