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Re: Ask HN: Coping with cancer in the family

#21
I'm sorry you're going through this.

It's very difficult to be a caregiver and, without a doubt, the additional burdens that places on your life make finding the life/work balance even harder. And, then, you have the emotional aspects of having a loved one in their journey.

As a software consultant who simultaneously was a patient (Stage IV melanoma) and a caregiver to my wife (Acute Myeloid Leukemia) with two kids (tween and teen) nine years ago, it was definitely a struggle.

Some suggestions:

* Don't be afraid to ask for help from other friends and relatives to lessen your burden.

* Schedule time for yourself on a regular basis to take a break from the situation. (I personally started regular cycling and yoga, but YMMV.)

* Communicate with your manager and colleagues to help you get some work flexibility. Of course, remote work opportunities will give location flexibility, as there is often a lot of waiting between scans, appointments, and treatments.

* Seek a professional therapist if you need someone to help you sort through the tangle of issues in your head.

I wish you mental peace as you travel this unexpected journey with your mom. It's not easy, but it is possible to navigate this rough patch in life and come out better and stronger on the other side.

Re: Ask HN: Coping with cancer in the family

#23
I have watched my father battle with cancer for the last couple years. One of the most difficult things for him has been dealing with the things that he can no longer do physically because of the disease/treatment. So we have tried to focus and emphasize the things that he still can do or find replacements for that can still try and bring him the same joy. For example, he was an avid cyclist but can no longer go mountain biking (or really any biking at this point) anymore. So instead we have tried to take more drives in to the mountains to still replicate some of that feeling

In that same line of thinking, grief counselors can be amazing. While grief counselors are typically associated with loss of a person, they have also helped my father with trying to deal with loss of the person he used to be. It has also been helpful to have a counselor or someone similar that is specifically focused on him, rather than all of his other slew of doctors which are more focused on the disease.

Re: Ask HN: Coping with cancer in the family

#24
My daughter was diagnosed with cancer at 3 years old (stage 4).

I took "family leave", which is possible depending on which state you live in (within the US at least). I was able to take three months of leave (at a reduced pay).

I lived in the hospital the entire time. I never went back to work though, I just couldn't find the focus, time or effort to be productive in a work/team environment. I honestly lost all "care" for work. I couldn't push myself to care at all and work on something when I was sitting in the same room as my daughter and seeing what she was going through.

My daughter is now 6 years old and I still haven't gone back to work.

What has helped me? Not much.

Seeing the care and love from a few friends and family members has certainly helped me and my family, but at the same time I have grown to dislike a lot of people that weren't around at that time. I feel like I learned who my real family and friends are.

If you're wondering how the friends and family helped... they were simply there, repeatedly. They helped us when we were in New York for treatment far from home. They quit their job and flew from their home country to live with us for over a year to help take care of our other daughter while we were living in the hospital.

Reading Marcus Aurelius' Meditations (Gregory Hayes translation) helped me really think long and hard about my life and what matters (and what doesn't matter). It certainly helped me push forward.

Re: Ask HN: Coping with cancer in the family

#25
Can't help much but my uncle had a rare case of cancer in his liver that started to spread. He just wanted to be treated like he didn't have cancer. Sure everyone is different but if he wanted a drink he would try to get it himself. If he couldn't then he'd ask.

My advice is just spend as much quality time with your mom as possible and just be there to listen.

Re: Ask HN: Coping with cancer in the family

#26
It's tough but the toughest part you're encountering is the newness of it. When my mom was diagnosed I was a wreck. Then it evened out a bit and now that she's nearing the end, I'm a wreck again. There's an emotional pointedness to these types of things that dulls a bit with time.

I would say just be with her and help out where you can, be normal, do normal things (as much as possible), chat. Maybe cook some food to help out, pick up the house, etc. Even though my mom can't eat much anymore, I've been taking food for my dad, trying to keep his energy up, doing dishes, small stuff like that along with the occasional big task. I hope treatment can bring remission for your mother but you should know now that if it doesn't or if it doesn't last, cancer will rob her of her dignity in a very ugly way and you should prepare yourself for that. At the same time stay hopeful. My mom got much longer than I thought she would when first diagnosed.

Anyways, think about what you would want if you were confronting what your mom is. Probably after the shock wore off you'd realize you wanted meaningful experiences. Not necessarily big, just meaningful. A trip to a bucketlist location can be meaningful but so can a sleepy day spent inside or a surprise visit.

>But its life I suppose and we have to accept it and learn to deal with it. I am just learning to , and am looking for some direction here, so I can do my best to balance a job and take care of my family through this time.

Well if the balance has to change a bit then it has to change, that's really all there is to it frankly. You just have to be honest with yourself about it. It's okay to cry in the parking lot, just give yourself a few minutes, blow your nose, wipe up your eyes and then you go in and do the job. Or if you need time off to care for her, then take it. Anyways the thing about life is you don't have to do anything except live it and it's the same for death too. You'll figure out your own way through it as will your mom. One last thing, don't feel guilty about doing other things, going out to the bar and having a good time or seeing a sports game or all that normal stuff. It'll help you a lot and it'll help your mom worry a little less about you, plus it gives you something interesting to talk about. She's going to be living in cancer world for a while and she'll get sick of talking so much about it.

Anyways my situation may be drastically different from yours. But since you're coming here you're probably struggling with some degree of self-doubt about how to handle this, don't worry because you obviously love your mother and so you'll find the ability to do what you have to. And it's all still fresh so be easy on yourself now - you may have to be hard on yourself later.

I wish your mother all the luck in the world with her treatment.

Re: Ask HN: Coping with cancer in the family

#27
Always encourage her to seek second or third opinions and to join support groups if she can. All cancers are not the same, and staging can determine prognosis, but nothing is set in stone. Ensure that she is active, as that seems to help reduce harshness of chemo to some extent anecdotally.

Let your employer know if they are empathetic, take the FMLA leave to set things up for her. Little things go a long way, like being with her during chemo sessions, cooking food that she likes and is palatable, being on hand to help her with nausea and other side effects, or even arranging distractions like a movie or finding her books to read.

Re: Ask HN: Coping with cancer in the family

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post #24

My daughter was diagnosed with cancer at 3 years old (stage 4). I took "family leave", which is possible depending on which state you live in (within the US at least). I was able to take three months of leave (at a reduced pay). I lived in the hospital the entire time. I never went back to work though, I just couldn't find the focus, time or effort to be productive in a work/team environment. I honestly lost all "car…

I’m in this situation (son is 4, diagnosed at 3) and this comment is pretty much everything I would say.

That absolutely includes reading Meditations. My copy is dog eared and has many notes written in it.

Re: Ask HN: Coping with cancer in the family

#29
I'm really sorry to hear about your Mom. I was diagnosed with cancer in September and it has been a wild ride. I can relate at least a little, but I'm sure this hits everyone differently and we all handle it differently. If you find it is hard to focus, that is totally normal. Don't be hard on yourself over it. Hopefully your manager is understanding, that can be a huge help.

Re: Ask HN: Coping with cancer in the family

#30
I’m very sorry to hear this and I’m going through something similar. My mother has been diagnosed with late stage cancer a couple of months ago. Here’s what I’m doing:

- I’m taking time of work. To look after her, but also my role as primary caregiver is impossible to combine with work

- I’m personally seeing a psychologist specialized in oncology. She taught me a useful self-care framework that consists of four pillars: autonomy, physical well-being, social support, and doing meaningful things.

- My mum is also seeing a similar person to talk about the disease, its implications and possible death

- My role as primary caregiver and only child is complex. We involved a mediator to set mutual expectations

- I’m using the time to learn how to take care of myself both physically and mentally. For instance, I’m experimenting with light therapy and nutritional supplements

- I am learning about cancer. This is sometimes emotionally tough, but I like that I can now better help my mother navigate the medical complexities. Cancer is also an interesting gateway into immunology. I recommend “Elegant Defense” by Matt Richtel

- I spent a lot of energy organizing professional care (e.g., nurses, food l). This means that my support for her now feels of a higher quality.

- I am helping my mum keep track of her medical condition over time. This relates for instance to pain, side-effects, complications etc.

- I am trying to figure out what she finds difficult from an emotional and energy perspective. I outsource this. She needs to focus on getting through the therapy.

- I didn’t read all the comments, but it’s very true that outsiders often don’t know what to do but want to help. Make a list of things that need to happen and share it with them.

I wish you and your mother lots of strength.

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