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Ask HN: Is the Great Resignation in tech real? If so, why?

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Re: Ask HN: Is the Great Resignation in tech real? If so, why?

#21

Mostly no - if you look back more than a year, you'd see that quit rates are modestly higher than normal, but balanced out by the very low quit rates in 2020. If you do 2 year averages, the past two years looks the same as 2018-2019 or 2016-2017.

For which country?

Source on these quit rates?

Re: Ask HN: Is the Great Resignation in tech real? If so, why?

#22
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Low interest rates -> cheap capital -> lots of tech funding -> lots of jobs.

This is the only correct answer here.

Interest rates have been low for long time though. Seems you need another explanation to explain the recent increase in resignations.

Re: Ask HN: Is the Great Resignation in tech real? If so, why?

#23
My theory is a combination of (3a) (you have two 3's :) and an additional hypothesis that you didn't mention: people have a pandemic-induced sense of pent up angst and unease with their life, and so they are making life changes in an attempt to find happiness again. Obviously, changing jobs won't relieve the pain the pandemic has caused, but I'd argue there's a subliminal desire to try to change something.

Anecdotally, my personal experience supports (3a), since I tried to find a new job in mid 2020 and found the job market incredibly challenging, but then looked again in mid 2021 and ended up finding a job I was excited about.

Re: Ask HN: Is the Great Resignation in tech real? If so, why?

#24
The second (3) is quite valid as “I’m tired of this sh*t” affected all those close to retirement who didn’t need short term cash flow. Folks with no kids, the kids out of the house and the house paid for.

The first (3j also strikes me as valid as the possibility of f2f interviews was basically zero. Between social distancing and the collapse of border crossing and air travel “sitting tight” was prudent. Remote interviews lead into (4).

Edit: the loss of external child care forced some workers home. It’s possible the positives of at home care shifted the balance vs the expense of external care. And now, perhaps due to the difficulty of securing it.

Re: Ask HN: Is the Great Resignation in tech real? If so, why?

#25
Generally it's kicking out foreign workers and banning/discouraging people from expensive things/ideas like international travel, living in cities is 'cool', leaving the house to see friends rather than watching Popcorn Time.

For IT I'd be wanting to hear what the Indian part of HN says.

Generally for the West it's been at the expense of the developing countries.

How is IT in India and other non Western countries doing? They should rule out 4 (Are they being matched better in the USA?) but could confirm 5.

Re: Ask HN: Is the Great Resignation in tech real? If so, why?

#26
1.Inflation. Money is worth less now that we printed so much more. Same reason why you see companies raising a lot at crazy high valuations. Nobody wants to keep cash because at some point the price of everything will catch up. Stock, house, crypto going up can be explained as that. 40% of dollars have been printed in the last 12 months. People trust businesses, houses and even crazy cryptocurrency with no real basis more than their government not printing infinite money.

2. People had a taste of remote work freedom. That's an extra bargaining cheap when negotiating.

People mental health went to the bin after being locked up for so long and they either: - had enough of their company - had enough of their job at all

Hopefully it will translate to more small business entrepreneurship. We definitely need those given that the pandemic favoured incredibly big businesses (unsurprisingly)

Re: Ask HN: Is the Great Resignation in tech real? If so, why?

#28

Every tech company was forced into remote working, suddenly now every tech worker is (really) competing on the global job market, and the market is adjusting to the new offer/demand. That’s my theory.

I think only recently have we seen companies adopt actual long term remote policies since initially the intent was to come back into the office. Also, I think it’s probably closer to a regional or national market at most. Most companies won’t just let any employee work from anywhere due to tax laws. For example, I can currently live in any state but that state has to have my company incorporated in it(which is about 25 states).

Re: Ask HN: Is the Great Resignation in tech real? If so, why?

#29
Pre-Covid much of my job satisfaction came from the sense of comradery of working on a team. Even as an introvert I enjoy interacting with coworkers, and being intune with the needs of the group and generally helping other people succeed.

When we transitioned to full remote, all of this was stripped away and I was left to focus purely on a product that on its own I was not passionate about (think ad-like product). I was met with a sudden loss in motivation, burnout, and decided to take 9 months off to pursue a tech unrelated hobby.

9 months after leaving, I have accepted a position with a 50% raise over to my previous job.

I think covid was a splash of cold water that's caused many of the people in my circle to re-evaluate how they spend their time. Tech workers are so in demand that we can freely change jobs so it follows that many people would availing that option.

Re: Ask HN: Is the Great Resignation in tech real? If so, why?

#30

Every tech company was forced into remote working, suddenly now every tech worker is (really) competing on the global job market, and the market is adjusting to the new offer/demand. That’s my theory.

This would drive wages down.
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