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Re: Ask HN: Best Place to Live in 2050?

#22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What makes Zurich one of the best places to live now?

Currywurst and Lindt chocolate

Not sure if that's a joke or reference i don't get but Currywurst is not Swiss (and honestly i haven't seen it here very often either) and Lindt is basically only the "cheap export stuff" you would be surprised how much better chocolate can get ;)

Re: Ask HN: Best Place to Live in 2050?

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My vote goes to Switzerland too.

I migrated here years ago, felt unhappy and travelled a lot. Only with getting older and mostly trough the current pandemic i realized how lucky i actually am.

- We still practice small scale farming communities that are commercially feasable due to smart import taxes

- We have multiple altitudes, climate zones and languages, something for everyone.

- We have a well working society and government most people are very accepting for. Something most countries don't seem to have as seen recently.

- We are kinda well protected (good army, mountains, plenty of weapons in private homes [if that's good or not, it might be in this scenario])

- I think no country did show how it values the independent individual responsibility more than Switzerland in the recent months. No hard lockdowns, no weird laws that just suddenly appear, no swiss being locked out because of weird border issues, ... Most things were done by repeatly explaining why its necessary and not by enforcing it

- Very good education (for free or at least affordable) and the option for home schooling.

- Quality food is affordable. Swiss always think i am joking, but in reality the price difference between organic meat and not is less, and especially the availability is good compared to any other country i've been to. We also generally use less fertilizers than anyone in the EU

Re: Ask HN: Best Place to Live in 2050?

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Maybe it's just me. But if societies collapsed in 2050, you really aren't going to get a choice as to where you live unless you are the 0.1%. You will most likely have to choose a place where your race fits in with the population.

For example, I seriously doubt if Asians will live happily in Russia or Poland or Europe in general if society is collapsing.

Re: Ask HN: Best Place to Live in 2050?

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post #19

“Considering climate change”: Ask yourself what type of answer you’d have gotten in 1970s when the climate change fear at the time was that we’d all be freezing.

> An enduring popular myth suggests that in the 1970s the climate science community was predicting “global cooling” and an “imminent” ice age, an observation frequently used by those who would undermine what climate scientists say today about the prospect of global warming. A review of the literature suggests that, on the contrary, greenhouse warming even then dominated scientists' thinking as being one of the most important forces shaping Earth's climate on human time scales

https://journals.ametsoc.org/view/journals/bams/89/9/2008bam...

Re: Ask HN: Best Place to Live in 2050?

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post #6

Probably a scandinavian country, Sweden seems like a good bet with a decent social system and well maintained infrastructure.

I wouldn't bet on Sweden in 2050, they're heading for a demographic collapse.

Not sure why this is downvoted.

Re: Ask HN: Best Place to Live in 2050?

#27

North Mediterranean area, Catalonia or French Riviera. France is one of the best natural defense (alps) countries with the atomic bomb. Spain is self defended by the sea. You have The Pyrenees and The Alps as barriers. Access to water, rivers.

This would have been my vote.

In 2050, there may be a Northern Hemisphere Jet Stream collapse. Everyone here is posting about how things are gonna warm up - Western Europe is going to cool down probably in a 1C or 2C warming scenario. W. Europe is further north than people think.

The Med is a great heat sink / battery and regulates the local climate. Imagine Nice in the spring, or Barcelona.

Re: Ask HN: Best Place to Live in 2050?

#29
The older I get the more I appreciate the US Midwest (where I am originally from and where I live now). There are quite a few advantages in your doomsday scenario as well!

- Cooler climate, and far away from many natural disasters such as earthquakes, hurricanes, tornadoes, etc. This should make the effects of warming/climate change milder.

- Plenty of fresh water

- Diverse local economy including manufacturing and agriculture

- Far away from international borders (except Canada)

- Cheap land in 2021, so easy to move to if you are already in the USA

Re: Ask HN: Best Place to Live in 2050?

#30
My go-to place in a collapse scenario has been Delta, Colorado. Good farmland, good water supply, not much surrounding society to collapse, surrounding desert and mountains form a barrier to armies or armed gangs, mountains for timber, coal nearby. You might even be able to use hydro for electricity. The downsides are oil and metals - I'm not sure either would be very accessible.
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