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Ask HN: Are Dishwashing Machines Bullshit?

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Re: Ask HN: Are Dishwashing Machines Bullshit?

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Post by praash »

What's the issue with everyone saying that pre-cleaning is something effortful? Spending a few seconds to rinse a dish right after use saves you tons of effort later on. If you leave your lunch plates in the machine for a day before turning it on, chances are that even a decent dishwasher can't get all the gunk off. You'll end up scraping the rest with your fingers.

I don't get it why all the dishwasher ads tell you not to pre-clean your dishes at all. It is a very quick routine that really helps against permanent stains. It's much easier and faster to wash the dishes by hand if they were quickly rinsed immediately after use.

Re: Ask HN: Are Dishwashing Machines Bullshit?

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Post by cpach »

Modern dishwashers are effective. You don’t need to rinse the plates before starting the dishwasher. (But of course you should remove large food particles first.)

However, for a single-person household it might not be worth it. For a household of more than two it’s definitely worth it.

Re: Ask HN: Are Dishwashing Machines Bullshit?

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Post by atraac »

chevill wrote: post #13
muzani wrote: post #11

The purpose of the original dishwasher was not to save time but prevent damage: https://spectrum.ieee.org/the-institute/ieee-history/this-so...

The modern ones definitely don't do that. I'm an unusually clumsy person and my dishwasher chips or breaks at least 20 dishes for every one that I break myself.

You must have a weird dishwasher or you put your dishes in weird positions because I've been using an 8 year old washer with my gf for last 2 years and it has never destroyed anything.

Re: Ask HN: Are Dishwashing Machines Bullshit?

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Post by FroshKiller »

musicale wrote: post #16
FroshKiller wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What do you mean by "non-US innovation"? I'm in the US and use a drying rack. I can't think of anyone I know in the US who doesn't use a drying rack.

People with dishwashers. Oh, wait... there's a drying rack inside the dishwasher!

I mean I am also a person with a dishwasher....

Re: Ask HN: Are Dishwashing Machines Bullshit?

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Post by Kim_Bruning »

giardini wrote: post #6

I doubt it. I have a dishwasher but don't use it. I wash and dry dishes by hand. It takes no more than 10 minutes to wash and dry two persons' dishes and cookware. I often cook and wash dishes at the same time! But I've been washing and drying dishes since I was a child and my early years of conscripted dish washing were spent learning to optimize washing and drying procedures. So I'm very fast and efficient. For a f…

You can firmly hold sharp objects by the sharp end relatively safely; it's the letting go that can be dangerous.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vwuQPfvSSlo (Extreme example: At one point in time, people would sometimes hold sharp swords by blade -in the middle of a swordfight - and win!)

To cut something you need sharp object + cutting motion. No cutting motion means no effect.

I say relatively safe; because of course you're putting yourself in a position where you theoretically can get hurt if you accidentally loosen your grip.

Re: Ask HN: Are Dishwashing Machines Bullshit?

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Post by perilunar »

If I lived alone I wouldn’t bother with a dishwasher, but for a family they are great. Biggest issue I find is unpacking them. There’s always stuff that hasn’t dried properly.

I think the ideal would be dual drawer dishwashers that you use alternately, leaving the clean dishes in one until you fill the other, so that the dishwashers become the cupboard. Do people do this?

Re: Ask HN: Are Dishwashing Machines Bullshit?

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Post by I_complete_me »

perilunar wrote: post #28

If I lived alone I wouldn’t bother with a dishwasher, but for a family they are great. Biggest issue I find is unpacking them. There’s always stuff that hasn’t dried properly. I think the ideal would be dual drawer dishwashers that you use alternately, leaving the clean dishes in one until you fill the other, so that the dishwashers become the cupboard. Do people do this?

I live alone and have a dishwasher. Put it on once a week and would not live without it - the dishes are spotless after washing. If it ever dies, I will replace it immediately. Only downside is having to keep the dishes 'under water' to prevent encrustation but this is only bothersome when other people are due to come around.
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