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Re: Ask HN: How to relocate to Europe as a software developer

#21
At least for Germany it seems fairly straight forward. You simply need to qualify for a blue card. https://service.berlin.de/dienstleistung/324659/en/

The target salary you need to achieve is € 44k / year.

As described in other comments, once you have found a job your employer will be able to help you take care of the admin topics of getting a visa.

There is no need to speak German and many Berlin based tech companies have English as the official office language (at least in the engineering teams)

Re: Ask HN: How to relocate to Europe as a software developer

#22
I made this move from the US to the EU. If you interview and get into a job in the EU, they're definitely willing to help relocate.

I would look into Dublin, Ireland, as your foot in. There are a ton of companies looking to expand their presence in Ireland for those sweet, sweet tax breaks.

Re: Ask HN: How to relocate to Europe as a software developer

#23
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It's absurdly easy, just look for a job that qualifies for Green Card (almost any developer job is). Caveat: since you are assumingly planning to immigrate from a poor country, you should remember that immigration will most certainly lower your living standard for a while or maybe forever, and certainly and forever lower your social standing.

There’s no such thing as Green Card in Europe, and each country has their own immigration rules.

Re: Ask HN: How to relocate to Europe as a software developer

#24
Obviously right now is probably ill advised as various countries in Europe are dealing with the pandemic differently and vaccination might become a factor at some point down the road.

Find out which European country you want to live in, it's a wide ensemble of laws, culture and practices and simply "moving to Europe" will vary a lot depending on which country you move to.

Language is probably on top of the list, I know in some countries just speaking English will be ok and companies won't care, but you will want to do some research on that (i.e. I lived in Germany for a short time and I'm glad I knew enough German to get around).

As far as software development goes, there isn't a shortage of companies hiring, you might even be lucky enough to find a company that is willing to sponsor your. Check your own countries rules re earning money in another country, they might want to tax you.

Overall I'd say you need to research:

- Which country do you want to go to

- What are their immigration requirements (not all of Europe has the same immigration rules, despite what anti EU idiots think)

- Daily language use

- How much does it cost to rent a place

- How much does it cost to live there (food prices vary a lot)

- Right now this is a terrible idea, but go to the country and stay in the city you think you want to live in and test it out, this isn't a substitution for actually living there, but is a start to find out if you hate it or not

In ref to buying a passport, yes this is an option, some countries still do it, usually quite expensive.

Re: Ask HN: How to relocate to Europe as a software developer

#26
If you can transfer within the company, this is the easiest route by a country mile. Your company will help with the transfer, organise some of the logistics and official matters. It is still not easy sailing, but some sort of support network is available. It is how I moved from Australia to Germany.

Re: Ask HN: How to relocate to Europe as a software developer

#27
post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

To be fair, aside from perhaps very specific domains (e.g. finance) or corporations, the pay probably looks dismal if you compare it to SV levels. Making six figures is certainly something hard to reach. Ditto on the immigrants thing though, Germany is certainly not the worst country in that regard.

The number of figures is pretty irrelevant when you factor in cost of living.

That is partially true. The absurd remunerations of SV engineers factor in the cost of living, for sure, but generally people can consolidate a decent amount of capital in a few years if they have a good position.

Even if you have to spend $2000 for a two-bedroom flat, if you earn $150k/yr you are likely able to save more money than someone earning €50000 with a €500 flat.

(I am not saying SWEs are underpaid in the EU, if anything it is still an absurd amount of money compared to people who add real value to society, but there is certainly a stark contrast)

Re: Ask HN: How to relocate to Europe as a software developer

#28
post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

To be fair, aside from perhaps very specific domains (e.g. finance) or corporations, the pay probably looks dismal if you compare it to SV levels. Making six figures is certainly something hard to reach. Ditto on the immigrants thing though, Germany is certainly not the worst country in that regard.

The number of figures is pretty irrelevant when you factor in cost of living.

Have to agree with oji0hub. Once you factor in cost of living, health system, governmental support etc. Life in Germany is actually ahead of its American counterpart.

Re: Ask HN: How to relocate to Europe as a software developer

#29
Depends where you are from, and where in Europe you want to move to.

If you are from India/Middle East/Africa... Be prepared for a 10x effort if you are male. If you are a female, young, good looking, will make things much much easier thou, and can be an advantage.

I guess you want to relocate to western Europe and not eastern.

You need to find a country and then find the biggest it consultancy there. That is your best option. Big multinational it firms hire alot. The only hurdle I see is the lack of degree. That is a piece of paper that would expedite things.

Re: Ask HN: How to relocate to Europe as a software developer

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post #4

Germany is a very easy to entry point for you as a software developer. The market is huge and there is shortage of good candidates. Polish up your linkedin profile and start applying for positions in germany. Good luck!

It's just that the pay is abysmal and locals hate immigrants :)

The expenses (rent, day to day, etc.) are considerably lower in most German cities versus Paris, London or some other hubs. While racism exists in some places, it’s an exaggeration to put it like this. I say this based on my own experience as an immigrant backend developer who came to Germany with a work visa.
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