Puzzled: I do not have a data science PhD. I have a huge number of years doing compiler code generators/binary translation retargeting. As such, I continue to be baffled as to why Python is a desired language - it is dynamic, with no capabilities to utilize 16-bit floats (such as used by Googles TPU, or GPU processors) And yet, ML and data science are so compute bound that it strikes me as unfortunate that an untyped language such as Python would be of any use at all as a Data Science tool base.
Please enlighten me!
Ask HN: What are the best data science bootcamps?
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Re: Ask HN: What are the best data science bootcamps?
#22I hire Data Scientists. I get A LOT of applications. The name of the bootcamp doesn't matter. If you haven't worked as a Data Scientist before, have a portfolio of code I can look at. If you have, I care about how relevant your experience is to my problems, not about where you learned pandas.
How extensive a code portfolio would someone need for you to consider them? How much experience would they need?
I got my PhD about a year ago and have been retraining myself to become a data scientist when postdocs didn't happen, and I'm really not sure how to break into the market.
Re: Ask HN: What are the best data science bootcamps?
#23I hire Data Scientists. I get A LOT of applications. The name of the bootcamp doesn't matter. If you haven't worked as a Data Scientist before, have a portfolio of code I can look at. If you have, I care about how relevant your experience is to my problems, not about where you learned pandas.
I'm curious why you want a Data Scientist to show you a portfolio of code rather than a portfolio of data projects & outcomes. The code seems pretty secondary unless you're in a some specific field looking for code-based solutions to a niche problem.
Re: Ask HN: What are the best data science bootcamps?
#24Why not try for data engineering? I'm looking for data scientist and data analyst jobs and it's been rough, you'll get over 100 apps for most positions because so many scientists like myself pivot out of the ridiculousness of academics. It's very hard to stand out, even with multiple publications, employers are flooded with great applicants. Maybe a data engineer can chime in, but the market certainly seems better fo…
What is the difference between data engineering and data science? The terms frequently seem to be used interchangeably, but apparently they're not synonymous.
Re: Ask HN: What are the best data science bootcamps?
#25Obvious bias, but myself and a number of people I know have obtained great value from the Insight Fellows Program [1]. From what I can tell, nothing else really comes close. For their Data Science program, I believe a PhD is still a requirement, but it seems you have one. The bigger caveat is that it's not really a "bootcamp" per se, in that there are no real lessons or assignments. Applicants to the program are expe…
As a 2019 Insight alum, I can't say more good things about the program. As someone who has now been on the other side of hiring, I can say that the fellows from the program really differentiate it from every other 'bootcamp' (I wouldn't call Insight a bootcamp as there are no real tests/homework/etc, but of course lots of expectations set by the program directors). Unfortunately, Insight kind of imploded like most ot…
> I can't say more good things about the program.
what were some of the top benefits for you in your career from attending this program?
Re: Ask HN: What are the best data science bootcamps?
#26Obvious bias, but myself and a number of people I know have obtained great value from the Insight Fellows Program [1]. From what I can tell, nothing else really comes close. For their Data Science program, I believe a PhD is still a requirement, but it seems you have one. The bigger caveat is that it's not really a "bootcamp" per se, in that there are no real lessons or assignments. Applicants to the program are expe…
Wow, $24k for the program?
Re: Ask HN: What are the best data science bootcamps?
#27Why not try for data engineering? I'm looking for data scientist and data analyst jobs and it's been rough, you'll get over 100 apps for most positions because so many scientists like myself pivot out of the ridiculousness of academics. It's very hard to stand out, even with multiple publications, employers are flooded with great applicants. Maybe a data engineer can chime in, but the market certainly seems better fo…
What is the difference between data engineering and data science? The terms frequently seem to be used interchangeably, but apparently they're not synonymous.
They aren't synonyms but they sometimes overlap.
- data engineering involves more work on data transformation and developing different pipelines
- data engineering requires more knowledge of databases, cloud environments or different streaming tools (it gets close to being a backend developer in some places)
- data engineering doesn't involve any statistical modeling, data science does
- data science is a broader term - depending on the company a data scientist might be doing all the data engineering work (if it isn't too much) + the model work and statistics. Or they might be focused entirely on research, statistics and ML models
Re: Ask HN: What are the best data science bootcamps?
#28Obvious bias, but myself and a number of people I know have obtained great value from the Insight Fellows Program [1]. From what I can tell, nothing else really comes close. For their Data Science program, I believe a PhD is still a requirement, but it seems you have one. The bigger caveat is that it's not really a "bootcamp" per se, in that there are no real lessons or assignments. Applicants to the program are expe…
I think one of the comments said vulgar and predatory. I second this. You don't need a bootcamp to break into Data Science, or Data Engineering, or Data anything.
Re: Ask HN: What are the best data science bootcamps?
#29I hire Data Scientists. I get A LOT of applications. The name of the bootcamp doesn't matter. If you haven't worked as a Data Scientist before, have a portfolio of code I can look at. If you have, I care about how relevant your experience is to my problems, not about where you learned pandas.
I'm curious why you want a Data Scientist to show you a portfolio of code rather than a portfolio of data projects & outcomes. The code seems pretty secondary unless you're in a some specific field looking for code-based solutions to a niche problem.
A data project without code is extremely difficult to evaluate.
I haven't hired data scientists but I've worked with them, and the best I've seen by far are the ones who can write well engineered code and who know how to use source control and unit tests.
My personal opinion is that I want software engineers with good data skills, not expert data people who are terrible at the engineering part.
After all, ever experienced data scientist will tell you that 90% of the work is building pipelines and cleaning data.
Re: Ask HN: What are the best data science bootcamps?
#30Obvious bias, but myself and a number of people I know have obtained great value from the Insight Fellows Program [1]. From what I can tell, nothing else really comes close. For their Data Science program, I believe a PhD is still a requirement, but it seems you have one. The bigger caveat is that it's not really a "bootcamp" per se, in that there are no real lessons or assignments. Applicants to the program are expe…
Agreed. I’ve worked with and hired boot camp, masters program, and traditionally educated data scientists. Insight is the only non-traditional program that’s positively correlated with performance. It seems to (a) screen tolerably well, and (b) do a good job of helping the demographic of “quantitative and technical PhD but no industry exposure” translate the skills and background well enough to speak the same language we do.