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Ask HN: Will the dev tools that don't work on M1 chips be fixed next year?

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Re: Ask HN: Will the dev tools that don't work on M1 chips be fixed next year?

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Post by grwthckrmstr »

vr46 wrote: post #9

I bought an MBP 16 in January, pretty fully loaded with the max chip, max ram and max gpu at the time, and I cannot recommend you buy this machine or even a newer version of it right now. It’s great, but real battery life is abysmal, it runs very hot, although this has been massively improved by switching from FF to Safari, and I usually have Turbo Booster Pro restricting the cpu to base speed. And, not much uses the…

Hey! Until right now, I never thought to disable turbo boost to make my MBP 16 run cooler or have better battery life. Now that you said it, using Turbo Booster Pro seems a no-brainer for 99% of my daily usage. Thank you!

My question is - is there a similar app that lets me disable the AMD GPU? Again 99% of my work does not require the discrete GPU's power. Disabling it should help run the laptop cooler and enable longer battery life.

Re: Ask HN: Will the dev tools that don't work on M1 chips be fixed next year?

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Post by indemnity »

vr46 wrote: post #9

I bought an MBP 16 in January, pretty fully loaded with the max chip, max ram and max gpu at the time, and I cannot recommend you buy this machine or even a newer version of it right now. It’s great, but real battery life is abysmal, it runs very hot, although this has been massively improved by switching from FF to Safari, and I usually have Turbo Booster Pro restricting the cpu to base speed. And, not much uses the…

I have the same i9, and I run it 24/7 with two 4K monitors attached, so dGPU always on.

Fans are always going, and with the crapware installed by IT, CPU averages 70C to 90C

Throttles a lot, not a great developer experience.

Hope the successor Mx chip can drive two monitors without taking off, and still compile as well.

Re: Ask HN: Will the dev tools that don't work on M1 chips be fixed next year?

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Post by vr46 »

grwthckrmstr wrote: post #21
vr46 wrote: post #9

I bought an MBP 16 in January, pretty fully loaded with the max chip, max ram and max gpu at the time, and I cannot recommend you buy this machine or even a newer version of it right now. It’s great, but real battery life is abysmal, it runs very hot, although this has been massively improved by switching from FF to Safari, and I usually have Turbo Booster Pro restricting the cpu to base speed. And, not much uses the…

Hey! Until right now, I never thought to disable turbo boost to make my MBP 16 run cooler or have better battery life. Now that you said it, using Turbo Booster Pro seems a no-brainer for 99% of my daily usage. Thank you! My question is - is there a similar app that lets me disable the AMD GPU? Again 99% of my work does not require the discrete GPU's power. Disabling it should help run the laptop cooler and enable lo…

Sadly not! There used to be, gfxcardstatus on older macs could force integrated but the only choice now is to force discrete.

Re: Ask HN: Will the dev tools that don't work on M1 chips be fixed next year?

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Post by retroman2 »

grwthckrmstr wrote: post #21
vr46 wrote: post #9

I bought an MBP 16 in January, pretty fully loaded with the max chip, max ram and max gpu at the time, and I cannot recommend you buy this machine or even a newer version of it right now. It’s great, but real battery life is abysmal, it runs very hot, although this has been massively improved by switching from FF to Safari, and I usually have Turbo Booster Pro restricting the cpu to base speed. And, not much uses the…

Hey! Until right now, I never thought to disable turbo boost to make my MBP 16 run cooler or have better battery life. Now that you said it, using Turbo Booster Pro seems a no-brainer for 99% of my daily usage. Thank you! My question is - is there a similar app that lets me disable the AMD GPU? Again 99% of my work does not require the discrete GPU's power. Disabling it should help run the laptop cooler and enable lo…

This is a pretty popular GPU switching program for Macs with discrete GPUs: https://github.com/CodySchrank/gSwitch

Re: Ask HN: Will the dev tools that don't work on M1 chips be fixed next year?

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Post by vr46 »

retroman2 wrote: post #24
grwthckrmstr wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Hey! Until right now, I never thought to disable turbo boost to make my MBP 16 run cooler or have better battery life. Now that you said it, using Turbo Booster Pro seems a no-brainer for 99% of my daily usage. Thank you! My question is - is there a similar app that lets me disable the AMD GPU? Again 99% of my work does not require the discrete GPU's power. Disabling it should help run the laptop cooler and enable lo…

This is a pretty popular GPU switching program for Macs with discrete GPUs: https://github.com/CodySchrank/gSwitch

Hey, a new option - thanks, must try it :)

Re: Ask HN: Will the dev tools that don't work on M1 chips be fixed next year?

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Post by vr46 »

vr46 wrote: post #25
retroman2 wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is a pretty popular GPU switching program for Macs with discrete GPUs: https://github.com/CodySchrank/gSwitch

Hey, a new option - thanks, must try it :)

To my delight - it works!

Re: Ask HN: Will the dev tools that don't work on M1 chips be fixed next year?

#27

Post by runjake »

Yes. The performance/power usage from the M1 is amazing. Developers are jumping to the devices and this will spur dev tools to support the new platform more quickly.

I have a new personal MBP 16” and a work MBP 16”. They are great devices but they run really hot and the fans seem like they’re almost always on.

So, I’m taking a few hundred dollar hit and trading in my MBP 16” for an M1 MBP.

If you do go for the MBP 16”, don’t worry too much. It’s a great device with compatibles lot of expansion options port-wise.

Re: Ask HN: Will the dev tools that don't work on M1 chips be fixed next year?

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Post by benbusby »

I'll add to the recommendations to steer clear of the 16" MBP. It runs uncomfortably hot for rather menial tasks, and the fan noise is bothersome if you're like me and are used to previous generations that were an order of magnitude quieter (I upgraded from a 2015 MBP whose fans were seldom activated). I also almost always use an external display, and just connecting the monitor (1440p ultrawide) causes the fans to spin up to an audible level every time.

As for the M1 issues, nobody knows except for Apple, but I would expect that most will be solved within the next year. There's a lot of core functionality in that article you posted that I can't imagine staying broken for more than a year.

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