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Re: Ask HN: Technical roles without technical interviews?

#21

Hey I think you might be referencing to no white boarding. The easiest way to do this is to show your technical ability which might give the interviewer the confidence that you are the right one and leverage your network because that always helps. You can show your abilities by building side projects,communicating the communities,writing blogs or even contributing to the open source communities

Thanks for the comment. Those are some good areas where I can show my expertise.

Re: Ask HN: Technical roles without technical interviews?

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post #11

Well, there are three ways you can do this, at least from what I've seen/heard. 1. Become enough of an expert/authority in your field that you're hired on the work you've done in the past. If you're a superstar that invented a game changing JavaScript framework or open source project used by millions, people aren't gonna throw you into a technical interview before hiring you. 2. Find companies your friends/acquaintan…

Thanks for the tips, those do seem practical.

Re: Ask HN: Technical roles without technical interviews?

#23
This must be an American thing. In Europe it's pretty rare to find tech companies that do whiteboard questions and/or leetcode. The usual standard is one meeting with HR and the head of engineering (and/or a senior engineer) that ask you: tell me about yourself, what do you think about OOP, distributed systems, how to scale servers, Solid principles and some common patterns. If any, they invite you to an on-site meeting with the team to see if the team likes you... and that's all.

I'm not talking about FAANG (because, honesty, 99.9% of us don't work/will never work for a FAANG. And this includes HN folks as well. So it's pretty useless to take FAANG as examples of anything).

Re: Ask HN: Technical roles without technical interviews?

#24
The easy answer you might not like: interview at small places that don't have a lot of existing technical experience and don't pay very well. I've had 3 jobs now at small agencies (3-4 devs) that paid under $100k and none of them required any sort of technical interview. One looked at a project I had on Github and asked me to talk about it for a bit. Another just hired me without any real proof of my ability, just what I said I could do. Another just asked general interview questions. If you're fine building CRUD apps all day every day for sometimes pretty dumb projects with often dumb technology choices and no opportunity for upward advancement, it's a fine job.

Re: Ask HN: Technical roles without technical interviews?

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post #11

Well, there are three ways you can do this, at least from what I've seen/heard. 1. Become enough of an expert/authority in your field that you're hired on the work you've done in the past. If you're a superstar that invented a game changing JavaScript framework or open source project used by millions, people aren't gonna throw you into a technical interview before hiring you. 2. Find companies your friends/acquaintan…

1. Become enough of an expert/authority in your field that you're hired on the work you've done in the past. If you're a superstar that invented a game changing JavaScript framework or open source project used by millions, people aren't gonna throw you into a technical interview before hiring you.

That depends. There's the case of the person who wrote brew being asked technical questions to work at Apple.

In smaller fields, maybe. In FAANG I believe you would still go through the pipeline.

On (2) likewise for a FAANG

Re: Ask HN: Technical roles without technical interviews?

#26
I also feel it is frustrating. I have some good experience, lead a team of seniors and implement very complex software solutions in a big company.

Still, when I send a CV, I receive a leetcode challenge that I have no desire to study for and that doesn't represent my skillset or what I will be working with.

Is frankly very upsetting. That is before even talking with a human being.

Re: Ask HN: Technical roles without technical interviews?

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post #23

This must be an American thing. In Europe it's pretty rare to find tech companies that do whiteboard questions and/or leetcode. The usual standard is one meeting with HR and the head of engineering (and/or a senior engineer) that ask you: tell me about yourself, what do you think about OOP, distributed systems, how to scale servers, Solid principles and some common patterns. If any, they invite you to an on-site meet…

Oh wow I can’t believe and its very surprising for me Looks like i gotta move to europe because this interviewing is very stressful

Re: Ask HN: Technical roles without technical interviews?

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post #17

Are you saying you went through the leetcode/hackerrank daily preparation routine for a couple of months, but you are still getting nervous during interviews? If so, why do you think that is? Are you comfortable solving those programming puzzles outside of the interviews? Have you timed yourself? Have you done mock interviews with a friend?

I've been interviewing non-stop for a few months. For a few months prior to interviewing I watched computer science lectures online, read CTCI, and had a premium Leetcode subscription with a good amount of practice. I haven't done mock interviews with a friend, but I did pay for a few mock technical interviews. I much prefer technical assessments that are related to the day-to day. In either case, I'm much more comfo…

I just feel like leetcode style interviews don't touch the surface of my working experience and capabilities

When you play a game, and encounter a particularly difficult level, do you also feel like you don't have the skills needed to pass this level and therefore you should just give up? Treat the interview process as a game. Everyone plays the same game, and some people are better at it than others, but it's just that, a game. Try to have fun with it. After all, you became a programmer because you enjoy solving technical puzzles, right? Maybe having to solve a puzzle with a timer, and with someone watching you is making you uncomfortable, but it still involves doing what you love and what you're good at. If you can't change the world, change your attitude.

By dismissing companies hidden behind this interview practice you eliminate the majority of good SE jobs. You potentially trade a bad interview experience for a bad job. Is this a good trade?

Re: Ask HN: Technical roles without technical interviews?

#29
> I've been interviewing non-stop for a few months. For a few months prior to interviewing I watched computer science lectures online, read CTCI, and had a premium Leetcode subscription with a good amount of practice.

> I haven't done mock interviews with a friend, but I did pay for a few mock technical interviews.

Chances are that, given such extensive preparation, it's not really the technical part that is the problem, if you haven't been able to get an offer after going through a full process at 15 companies. Of course, it might be a severe case of bad luck, but I'd bet that your anxiety and stress are somehow leaking through. Did you self-reflect on that, and if yes, what are your thoughts?

Re: Ask HN: Technical roles without technical interviews?

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post #23

This must be an American thing. In Europe it's pretty rare to find tech companies that do whiteboard questions and/or leetcode. The usual standard is one meeting with HR and the head of engineering (and/or a senior engineer) that ask you: tell me about yourself, what do you think about OOP, distributed systems, how to scale servers, Solid principles and some common patterns. If any, they invite you to an on-site meet…

How many interviews have you done like this? I am in Europe and my graduate interviews were similar to this but I assumed more experienced interviews would be more leetcode style..
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