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Re: Ask HN: What is the smartest career path to take?

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> But I'm also cautiously thinking how your earning potential lowers as you age. It's not happened to me yet, my earning potential has only increased as I've gained more experience (41 now), especially since I went freelance. I would say in your 20's is a great time to take risks. Usually doing this will give you great experience you can then apply throughout your life, too. For example: - Work for a startup. Here yo…

I've been curious about the freelance route, but unsure what this really looks like in practice or if it's even possible for me to get into it.

1) How did you get started? Is it feasible for more junior engineers to get into it or not so much?

2) How do you find work consistently enough to make a living? What does the work often look like?

Re: Ask HN: What is the smartest career path to take?

#22
I had a similar dilemma when I was your age. Mine was burn out / bored driven.

Someone asked me what would I regret not doing at the end of my life. When ever that would be. As is common wisdom we regret what we do not do, not what we choose to do.

So I quite my job and road a bicycle up the east coast for 6 weeks. Followed a year later w NZ and Australia. Then the UK ....

Re: Ask HN: What is the smartest career path to take?

#23
This is one of my favorite videos about choice. It’s a couple snippets of Alan Watts and audio from Mr. Nobody. All with nicely edited video clips from here and there. I think it related to nonduality. That all options are correct, when you think about it or frame it a certain way: https://youtu.be/aGpyjeq93K8

Re: Ask HN: What is the smartest career path to take?

#24
All of your options are very good ones, so you likely won’t be able to come to a decision by simply thinking about it and getting advice.

Take concrete steps in a promising direction and judge the results along the way.

For example, if you want to pursue a higher-paying job:

* Do interviews at big tech companies. Talk to the people who work there and really learn what it’s like to work there.

* Visit cities like SF, NYC, and Seattle, meet local people, and see if you would love to move there.

Same goes for the other options. Spend some time working for free with someone who has a startup idea and see if you like it. And so on.

Re: Ask HN: What is the smartest career path to take?

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post #13

> But I'm also cautiously thinking how your earning potential lowers as you age. It's not happened to me yet, my earning potential has only increased as I've gained more experience (41 now), especially since I went freelance. I would say in your 20's is a great time to take risks. Usually doing this will give you great experience you can then apply throughout your life, too. For example: - Work for a startup. Here yo…

> my earning potential has only increased as I've gained more experience

I think the OP is referring to the sum earning potential across remaining years. At a certain point job retraining isnt worth it because the low number of remaining years results in a negative EROI vs maintaining the course.

Re: Ask HN: What is the smartest career path to take?

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There is no one set formula. Everyone here can only share what’s worked or not worked for them, and that may or may not work for you.

My personal anecdote: I’ve always tried to do interesting things with meaningful impact while staying away from dark pattern systems (ad tech, marketing tech, surveillance tech) as they are detrimental to society at large. This has led me to spend more time on safety critical systems. Also, I prefer to research algorithms, techniques and tools that other engineers can use to deliver products. I try to write code that other engineers will use.

My choices have led me to enjoy high autonomy at the price of salary, which is about adequate at best. That’s the price of the moral high ground.

It may be that what’s bothering you is the lack of impact. It seems that most of your research doesn’t lead to products, and the market share of the products also sounds fairly niche.

Perhaps doing the same role at a large corporation with a large client base will scratch the itch. Govt. is also another choice. Policy impact can be massive. Your research will be more focused on tech that actually has a chance of being useful to the business and some of the code you write will end up in a production system. Now, this will likely still make you less money, sometimes far less, than the folks in operations, basically those in the line of fire responsible for ensuring continuous operation. You could go work for them instead if money is more important.

That’s the fundamental tradeoff: autonomy or money. It’s entirely up to you to decide which is worth more to you.

I won’t jump into opening your own business because that requires a completely different skillset, and frankly it’s very difficult to succeed if you’re not inherently a people person. It would only really work if you have a unique skill catering to a dedicated, pre-made market. Every other type of business seems to require a lot of people-handling, and overall is the least autonomous of the three. The client is always your boss. Ergo if you have many clients, you have many bosses. Of course, giving people exactly what they want can make you a billionaire, so there’s that tradeoff again.

Re: Ask HN: What is the smartest career path to take?

#27
Listen to Naval Ravikant. He has a great Joe Rogan interview or you can listen to his podcast. Each podcast episode are short 1-3 minute bits of wisdom. Naval talks at a high level on how to achieve the trifecta of what most people want: health, wealth, and happiness/peace. These are the three things we need in the modern age to be free.

Re: Ask HN: What is the smartest career path to take?

#28
Some advice from my experiences.

First thing to realize is that you are already very successful in monetary terms. You're in a top percentile of earnings and have options open to you many people would dream of. You've got lucky!

Once you have accepted that, you need to work out what is driving you on because it is likely ego rather interest or passion or desire. It's about how you can demonstrate you are a success to some figure you have chosen to arbitrate your success - be that friends/family/organisation/other.

The smart thing to do is what you want to do and is bringing you closer to fulfilling you current life goals - and these will change.

Luck can turn bad very quick and go well - one career move ended up increasing my income massively - but my latest one due to bad timing with covid has left me unemployed and looking for work!

Re: Ask HN: What is the smartest career path to take?

#29
post #22

I had a similar dilemma when I was your age. Mine was burn out / bored driven. Someone asked me what would I regret not doing at the end of my life. When ever that would be. As is common wisdom we regret what we do not do, not what we choose to do. So I quite my job and road a bicycle up the east coast for 6 weeks. Followed a year later w NZ and Australia. Then the UK ....

I look back and my traveling days and I think I'd be better off doing something else during that period.

It seems like traveling and adventuring has been glamorized by the media and people around me a bit much and I caught the bug.

Looking back, I would have preferred to spend more time at local gardens, participated more in neighborhood events, helped out local community more and got to know my neighbors better. These activities to build a deeper emotional connection with people around me would have helped my mental health tremendously back then.

I'm not saying I regret traveling, I'm saying that the main reason why I took time to explore the world primarily because of the glamor of it and me trying to chase the next crazy adventure, all the while contributing to global warming in my wake. Traveling is not for everyone and I hope fewer people give out a blanket `travel the world` prescription and more people are willing to admit that maybe traveling didn't do shit for their growth.

Re: Ask HN: What is the smartest career path to take?

#30
A. Go work at a growth stage startup, i.e. Series A or close to it. You can commit really hard to work here. Double down whenever you can. Parlay that into bigger roles later. Crucially, aim to grow continuously here, you're trading off cash for growth so you have to get the growth.

B. Work at a FAANG. You'll get serious dollars. Use that to build long runway. Run company later or just FIRE yourself to peace.

Don't waste time on rinky dink stuff right now.

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