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Ask HN: Canada for tech jobs?

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Re: Ask HN: Canada for tech jobs?

#21
I think it depends what country are your from?

Lots of Canadians here will suggest to move to the United States for higher pay and better opportunitites.

But if you are from a developing country, then moving to the USA is very convulted and not an easy option for you like it is for Canadians.

So, If you that is your situation, then Canada is an exciting option and you might be able to work for a lot of US companies that have Canadian options.

Re: Ask HN: Canada for tech jobs?

#22
If you're considering Montréal, do your research before. French language is not a requirement to get by day-to-day in the city (though elsewhere in the province is another story). We have a decent tech sector with some big companies like CAE, Mindgeek, and Hopper. There is also a respectable AI research scene and an incresing amount of startups in the city. If you're open to learning French (a good chunk of jobs require it) and have any data centre credibility, you might be on a good trajectory. Québec has super low electricity costs and data centres are interested for that reason.

The city has a low cost of living, high provincial taxes, but a top notch cultural scene, bar scene, festival scene, etc.

If not Montréal, Toronto or Vancouver have their callings but most tech folks I studied with headed off to the states for higher wages - but I imagine many of them will return with stacked savings accounts at some point. As someone else pointed out, Waterloo is a special case and might be worth looking at, too.

Re: Ask HN: Canada for tech jobs?

#23
Compensation is lower, but if you have a family it's probably worth it. It's education, health care, and access to parks and such are generally easy to come by, cheap/free and good; particularly in Metro Vancouver. Those things make a world of difference when raising kids.

Re: Ask HN: Canada for tech jobs?

#24

Salaries are a different story in Canada compared to the USA. They are far less in Canada, a $200K CAD ($150K USD) tech job is rare, actually, $150K CAD ($112K USD) are also uncommon. Best job opportunities are in high COL locations (Vancouver, Toronto), followed by Montreal. But unlike the USA the compensation (for MOST employees) in those markets is only moderately higher than lower COL locations. (Calgary, Edmonto…

On top of the lower base salaries, the compensation you receive in the form of stocks is also a good bit lower.

Re: Ask HN: Canada for tech jobs?

#25

Can someone knowledgeable about this issue comment about legal / tax feasibility of getting a remote job with a US company and living in Canada or elsewhere abroad?

Do you have any specific questions? I am a Canadian, living in Canada, working remotely for a bay area company. Non-us based employees at the company are technically contractors where I work. It's pretty easy come tax time. You need to pay the full cpp amount, as opposed to half if you were working for a Canadian company, and I find the tax writeoffs to be quite meager, but I don't have any complaints in general.

Re: Ask HN: Canada for tech jobs?

#26
My business partner for one of his other ventures, hired a kid who finished a degree from University of Waterloo in NANO Technology Eng as a lab tech for a starting salary of 48k.

It seems like his prospects were very limited. I'm not sure if it's his career choice or if it's related to the high levels of underemployment in the Toronto tech industry in general.

Re: Ask HN: Canada for tech jobs?

#27

I'm a Canadian software that moved from Victoria, BC to San Francisco, CA to begin my career two years ago. My top earning friends in Canada of the same experience level earn 2 - 4 times less than me and my peers here. I'm saving significantly more here than them too even after a much higher cost of living. The quality of life here is worse though in some ways. Most of all I miss the politeness and generally less hos…

> My top earning friends in Canada of the same experience level earn 2 - 4 times less than me and my peers here

2 is possible, 4 seems like a big stretch. Are you really comparing apples to apples? Or are you working for Google and comparing against someone working for a random consultancy firm in Victoria? In Montréal, top software developers salaries are around 200K CAD, a bit more if you go at Google, and Montreal pays less than other cities.

Re: Ask HN: Canada for tech jobs?

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post #22

If you're considering Montréal, do your research before. French language is not a requirement to get by day-to-day in the city (though elsewhere in the province is another story). We have a decent tech sector with some big companies like CAE, Mindgeek, and Hopper. There is also a respectable AI research scene and an incresing amount of startups in the city. If you're open to learning French (a good chunk of jobs requ…

This. However I would say the reason why you really need to learn French is if you want to stay more than just a couple of year. Getting your permanent residency in Québec requires a certain level of proficiency in French. For jobs you can find plenty of them that won't require it.

Re: Ask HN: Canada for tech jobs?

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I'm a Canadian software that moved from Victoria, BC to San Francisco, CA to begin my career two years ago. My top earning friends in Canada of the same experience level earn 2 - 4 times less than me and my peers here. I'm saving significantly more here than them too even after a much higher cost of living. The quality of life here is worse though in some ways. Most of all I miss the politeness and generally less hos…

> My top earning friends in Canada of the same experience level earn 2 - 4 times less than me and my peers here 2 is possible, 4 seems like a big stretch. Are you really comparing apples to apples? Or are you working for Google and comparing against someone working for a random consultancy firm in Victoria? In Montréal, top software developers salaries are around 200K CAD, a bit more if you go at Google, and Montreal…

They said it was the beginning of their career.

Particularly on the island, in Victoria, it's quite possible for an entry level position to earn only around 33,000 to 45,000 CDN.

Re: Ask HN: Canada for tech jobs?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> a mostly car-based society. I haven't commuted by car in ... 17 years. I work in the Metro Vancouver area.

Yeah I think Vancouver is an exception to the parent's comment. It's certainly true in Calgary, Toronto, Montreal etc (IMHO).

Haven't used a car in 10 years in Montréal. Toronto is the same. Unless you are talking about someone living in the suburbs and commuting to work.
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