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Re: Ask HN: My manager suggested me to start taking Ritalin

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Find a way to get it in writing, and start looking for a new job, because your days there are numbered if your manager is giving unsolicited medical advice.

Was it unsolicited? If the poster confided to his boss that he has focus issues, his boss might have just been trying to offer a solution (albeit a bad one). I don't see what's unethical about this.

Re: Ask HN: My manager suggested me to start taking Ritalin

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post #6

Find a way to get it in writing, and start looking for a new job, because your days there are numbered if your manager is giving unsolicited medical advice.

Was it unsolicited? If the poster confided to his boss that he has focus issues, his boss might have just been trying to offer a solution (albeit a bad one). I don't see what's unethical about this.

> I don't feel like my focus is a problem.

Re: Ask HN: My manager suggested me to start taking Ritalin

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In life, we all have blind spots. Things that are obvious to others with more experience but may be invisible to ourselves.

But it may have been a helpful suggestion from the manager based on observation or personal experience that the OP might have some attention deficit issues that may or may not be improved with medication.

Hanlon's razor may apply here also.

Re: Ask HN: My manager suggested me to start taking Ritalin

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post #21
post #6

Find a way to get it in writing, and start looking for a new job, because your days there are numbered if your manager is giving unsolicited medical advice.

Was it unsolicited? If the poster confided to his boss that he has focus issues, his boss might have just been trying to offer a solution (albeit a bad one). I don't see what's unethical about this.

He could offer many solutions to a problem with focus, headphones, flexible working hours/location, ect but not medication. He is not a doctor and knows nothing about his employee's medication history.

Re: Ask HN: My manager suggested me to start taking Ritalin

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post #3

Was (s)he a body hacker? I've seen people also experiment with nootropics in an aim to improve their output. The fact that it was a boss in a 1:1 is a bit weird but ... what if it had simply been a coworker telling you what worked for them?

Methylphenidate is not a nootropic. If you are wondering if amphetamines and their friends improve your work output, the answer is yes, yes they do. They won't make you smarter though.

I didn't say that Ritalin was a nootropic ... but body hackers have been known to use both for enhanced performance. When I was in elementary school, my parents refused to put me on Ritalin but did experiment with giving me coffee for breakfast (perhaps the start of my current habit?). It was always curious to me that stimulants could help with ADD/ADHD.

Re: Ask HN: My manager suggested me to start taking Ritalin

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post #21
post #6

Find a way to get it in writing, and start looking for a new job, because your days there are numbered if your manager is giving unsolicited medical advice.

Was it unsolicited? If the poster confided to his boss that he has focus issues, his boss might have just been trying to offer a solution (albeit a bad one). I don't see what's unethical about this.

Manager with ADHD here. The most I'd do is suggest checking with a professional, not impersonating one with my manager hat on.

And mostly I avoid prying about mental health, except to the extent the individual relationship makes the topic come up (e.g. if they mention it).

If it's impacting work performance, I can inquire in more open ended ways than that.

Re: Ask HN: My manager suggested me to start taking Ritalin

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post #21
post #6

Find a way to get it in writing, and start looking for a new job, because your days there are numbered if your manager is giving unsolicited medical advice.

Was it unsolicited? If the poster confided to his boss that he has focus issues, his boss might have just been trying to offer a solution (albeit a bad one). I don't see what's unethical about this.

It’s still not appropriate for a manager who is not acting in a medical capacity to make that kind of recommendation.

It’s a huge huge leap to go from “I feel like your focus needs improvement” to “go get an amphetamine prescription because I feel you are not working hard enough.”

Re: Ask HN: My manager suggested me to start taking Ritalin

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post #20
post #3

Was (s)he a body hacker? I've seen people also experiment with nootropics in an aim to improve their output. The fact that it was a boss in a 1:1 is a bit weird but ... what if it had simply been a coworker telling you what worked for them?

Methylphenidate is not a nootropic. If you are wondering if amphetamines and their friends improve your work output, the answer is yes, yes they do. They won't make you smarter though.

I mean, by that definition of nootropic there are no nootropics lol. From Wikipedia:

"Nootropics are drugs, supplements, and other substances that may improve cognitive function, particularly executive functions, memory, creativity, or motivation, in healthy individuals."

So CNS stimulants like methylphenidate (which definitely increase motivation in healthy individuals) are nootropics by that definition.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nootropic

Re: Ask HN: My manager suggested me to start taking Ritalin

#30

That stuff is highly addictive. Honest to god, if he suggested it, most likely he takes it too. Get out of there, his expectations are based around people abusing speed, which means he basically expects some unhealthy output. Remember kids, all drugs work, until they don’t. You can always take more I guess.

If you find yourself needing to take more, please talk to your health professional. Help is available.
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