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Re: Ask HN: What are your experiences with Svelte (JS framework)

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Post by hustlinhack »

jakelazaroff wrote: post #17
hustlinhack wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What? "you don't always need to think about the ability to hire additional developers who know your framework of choice" Unless you are hiring a junior dev who has no experience I think this statement is pretty far fetched. The ramp up time for a new dev on a framework that isn't widely adopted yet will be way higher, plus hiring developers who would even want to work with said framework sounds like a task in itself…

I read that as an addendum to "Not everything needs to be thought of as a business use case". Which is to say: if you're working on something for fun, just choose the stack you'll enjoy the most.

Fair, but the rest of the comment did not support that point as there is a direct reference to hiring developers in the same sentence.

Re: Ask HN: What are your experiences with Svelte (JS framework)

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Post by vivekseth »

ng12 wrote: post #8

It's cute but I can't recommend it for a project with more than one developer. Lack of TypeScript support and the hacky component model (specifically, Svelte's equivalent of React props) are the two big deal-breakers.

I haven’t done much React, but I’ve played around with svelte a bit recently and I haven’t found any severe issues with the props model. What don’t you like about it?

Re: Ask HN: What are your experiences with Svelte (JS framework)

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Post by JDiculous »

hustlinhack wrote: post #11
tashoecraft wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not everything needs to be thought of as a business use case, you don't always need to think about the ability to hire additional developers who know your framework of choice. Also when I'm hiring I care very little about whether people have experience with the framework we use (Angular). Even still, I think svelte can be a good choice if your focus is on enhancing html with javascript rather than focusing on javascr…

What? "you don't always need to think about the ability to hire additional developers who know your framework of choice" Unless you are hiring a junior dev who has no experience I think this statement is pretty far fetched. The ramp up time for a new dev on a framework that isn't widely adopted yet will be way higher, plus hiring developers who would even want to work with said framework sounds like a task in itself…

> The ramp up time for a new dev on a framework that isn't widely adopted yet will be way higher

What, like a couple more weeks? I find it hard to believe that an experienced React/Vue/Angular dev would take a long time to pick up Svelte.

Re: Ask HN: What are your experiences with Svelte (JS framework)

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Post by lukeholder »

tmikaeld wrote: post #14
deltron3030 wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>Looks neat but I don't know why you'd choose it over one of the big 3 Vue is backed and influenced by Chinese corporations, and React is FB, if you dislike both and can somehow afford to avoid depending on them you might become a happier dev.

Seems to me that Vue is avoiding influence from Chinese corporations by being supported via his Patron[0]. I don't see any source backing up your claim that Vue would be influenced in any way by China. [0] https://www.patreon.com/evanyou

He deleted his recent tweets in support of China regarding HK.

https://twitter.com/bravemav/status/1185065083690373120

Re: Ask HN: What are your experiences with Svelte (JS framework)

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Post by hustlinhack »

JDiculous wrote: post #24
hustlinhack wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What? "you don't always need to think about the ability to hire additional developers who know your framework of choice" Unless you are hiring a junior dev who has no experience I think this statement is pretty far fetched. The ramp up time for a new dev on a framework that isn't widely adopted yet will be way higher, plus hiring developers who would even want to work with said framework sounds like a task in itself…

> The ramp up time for a new dev on a framework that isn't widely adopted yet will be way higher What, like a couple more weeks? I find it hard to believe that an experienced React/Vue/Angular dev would take a long time to pick up Svelte.

Finding all the intricacies and gotchya's of a new framework does not happen in a couple of weeks. Also, a total workflow change is not adapted to in a couple of weeks.

Re: Ask HN: What are your experiences with Svelte (JS framework)

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Post by derision »

hustlinhack wrote: post #27
JDiculous wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> The ramp up time for a new dev on a framework that isn't widely adopted yet will be way higher What, like a couple more weeks? I find it hard to believe that an experienced React/Vue/Angular dev would take a long time to pick up Svelte.

Finding all the intricacies and gotchya's of a new framework does not happen in a couple of weeks. Also, a total workflow change is not adapted to in a couple of weeks.

Training doesn't happen in a vacuum. Intricacies and gotchas should be known and hopefully documented by the existing team which can help ramp a new developer up quickly

Re: Ask HN: What are your experiences with Svelte (JS framework)

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Post by derision »

dkondrad wrote: post #18

Every new thing has humble beginnings... https://blog.risingstack.com/the-history-of-react-js-on-a-ti... Fun Fact: The audience was skeptical. Most people thought React was a huge step backward. This happened as mostly 'early adopters' attended this conference, however, React targeted 'innovators.' The creators of React realized this mistake on time, and decided to start a 'React tour' later on to turn haters into ad…

I still think react and angular are a step back

Re: Ask HN: What are your experiences with Svelte (JS framework)

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Post by hustlinhack »

derision wrote: post #28
hustlinhack wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Finding all the intricacies and gotchya's of a new framework does not happen in a couple of weeks. Also, a total workflow change is not adapted to in a couple of weeks.

Training doesn't happen in a vacuum. Intricacies and gotchas should be known and hopefully documented by the existing team which can help ramp a new developer up quickly

I agree, really good point.
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