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Re: Ask HN: Are there books for mathematics like Feynman's lectures on physics?

#21
"Calculus Made Easy" by Silvanus P. Thompson (1910). It is availably freely online via the Gutenberg project and many other forms too. Chapter 1 is probably the best mathematics chapter I have ever read [0]. In two paragraphs, it beats most other calculus books.

[0] http://calculusmadeeasy.org/1.html

Re: Ask HN: Are there books for mathematics like Feynman's lectures on physics?

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The closest I'm aware of is What Is Mathematics? by Courant, Robbins, and Stewart -- starts off developing the natural numbers, goes onto number theory, analysis, complex numbers, set theory, projective geometry, non-euclidean geometry, topology, calculus, optimization, and some chapters on recent developments (as of its republishing in 1996, book was originally published in 1941).

A lesser known one that isn't quite as comprehensive is a little Dover tome by Mendelson: Number Systems and the Foundations of Analysis. It starts off with the (abstract) natural numbers, and from there develops (parts of) real and complex analysis, using a categorical point of view throughout.

One of my favorite parts in the latter:

“What is our intuitive understanding of the natural numbers? Surely this being the firmest of all our mathematical ideas, should have a definite, transparent meaning. Let us examine a few attempts to make this meaning clear:

(1) The natural numbers may be thought of as symbolic expressions: 1 is |, 2 is ||, 3 is |||, 4 is ||||, etc. Thus, we start with a vertical stroke | and obtain new expressions by appending additional vertical strokes. There are some obvious objections with this approach. First, we cannot be talking about particular physical marks on paper, since a vertical stroke for the number 1 may be repeated in different physical locations. The number 1 cannot be a class of all congruent strokes, since the length of the stroke may vary; we would even acknowledge as a 1 a somewhat wiggly stroke written by a very nervous person. Even if we should succeed in giving a sufficiently general geometric characterization of the curves which would be recognized as 1’s, there is still another objection. Different people and different civilizations may use different symbols for the basic unit, for example, a circle or a square instead of a stroke. Yet, we could not give priority to one symbolism over any of the others. Nevertheless, in all cases, we would have to admit that, regardless of the difference in symbols, we are all talking about the same things.

(2) The natural numbers may be conceived to be set-theoretic objects. In one very appealing version of this approach, the number 1 is defined as the set of all singletons {x}; the number 2 is the set of all unordered pairs {x, y}, where x =/= y; the number 3 is the set of all sets {x, y, z} where x =/= y, x =/= z, y =/= z; and so on. Within a suitable axiomatic presentation of set theory, clear rigorous definitions can be given along these lines for the general notion of natural number and for familiar operations and relations involving natural numbers. Indeed, the axioms for a Peano system are easy consequences of the definitions and simple theorems of set theory. Nevertheless, there are strong deficiencies in this approach as well.

First, there are many competing forms of axiomatic set theory. In some of them, the approach sketched above cannot be carried through, and a completely different definition is necessary. For example, one can define the natural numbers as follows: 1 = {∅}, 2 = {∅, 1}, 3 = {∅, 1, 2}, etc. Alternatively, one could use: 1 = {∅}, 2 = {1}, 3 = {2}, etc. Thus, even in set theory, there is no single way to handle the natural numbers. However, even if a set-theoretic definition is agreed upon,it can be argued that the clear mathematical idea of the natural numbers should not be defined in set-theoretic terms. The paradoxes (that is, arguments leading to a contradiction) arising in set theory have cast doubt upon the clarity and meaningfulness of the general notions of set theory. It would be inadvisable then to define our basic mathematical concepts in terms of set theoretic ideas.

This discussion leads us to the conjecture that the natural numbers are not particular mathematical objects. Different people, different languages, and different set theories may have different systems of natural numbers. However, they all satisfy the axioms for Peano systems and therefore are isomorphic. There is no one system which has priority in any sense over all the others. For Peano systems, as for all mathematical systems, it is the form (or structure) which is important, not the “content”. Since the natural numbers are necessary in the further development of mathematics, we shall make one simple assumption:Basic Axiom There exists a Peano system.“

Elliott Mendelson, Number Systems and the Foundations of Analysis

Re: Ask HN: Are there books for mathematics like Feynman's lectures on physics?

#23
Mathematics is typically approached in a different way than physics. But there are some books that offer a similar perspective to what Feynman tried to achieve, IMHO. I would recommend to look at works by John Stillwell, for example 'Elements of mathematics' or 'Mathematics and its history'.

Nathan Carter's 'Visual group theory' also seems an interesting experiment, if you are interested in that part of mathematics, though I have not read it.

Re: Ask HN: Are there books for mathematics like Feynman's lectures on physics?

#24
Here's a question about the Feynman Lectures. I remember looking at the digitized text a few years ago, perhaps right after they made the digital copy freely available, and thinking the typesetting was pretty great. Looking at it today:

http://www.feynmanlectures.caltech.edu/I_toc.html

It is... very average looking. Did something happen here?

Re: Ask HN: Are there books for mathematics like Feynman's lectures on physics?

#26
In terms of depth and breadth, the Princeton companions get close to Feynman.[1][2]

A more formal approach appears in handbooks.[3][4]

[1] Gowers et al., The Princeton Companion to Mathematics. https://press.princeton.edu/books/hardcover/9780691118802/th...

[2] Higham and Dennis, The Princeton Companion to Applied Mathematics. https://press.princeton.edu/books/hardcover/9780691150390/th...

[3] Zwillinger, CRC Standard Mathematical Tables and Formulae. https://www.crcpress.com/CRC-Standard-Mathematical-Tables-an...

[4] Bronshtein, Handbook of Mathematics. https://www.springer.com/gp/book/9783540721222

Re: Ask HN: Are there books for mathematics like Feynman's lectures on physics?

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post #19

When I was studying physics, I found Feynman’s books in the library, read them all, and had the feeling I understand everything! But then I tried to solve some final exams from previous years, and realized the feeling is false. These books gave me great intuition - but they made all the math look deceivingly simple, and as a result it is hard to develop the actual problem solving skills and intuition. I know my exper…

Very much this. I'd recommend using these books as adjunct material. I found them indispensable as an undergrad when I was struggling to shift from a mathematician's rigor-and-proof perspective to a physicist's intuition-and-approximation perspective. However, I don't think I could have come close to passing my QM or E&M courses, even with a mathematical background that was stronger than most of my peers, if I'd only used Feynman to learn the physics.

Re: Ask HN: Are there books for mathematics like Feynman's lectures on physics?

#29

Prelude to Mathematics by W.W. Sawyer was written to give students an overview of modern math concepts beyond algebra. Topics include non-euclidian geometry, linear algebra, projective geometry and group theory. Again, for someone with an understanding of algebra. I enjoyed it and think it's in the spirit of what you're looking for. Edit: Introduction to Graph Theory by Trudeau is another that I really liked. Very li…

I came to add add Introduction to Graph Theory and found it here. I second it! A nice book and I appreciate it's funny introduction as a book designed for liberal arts majors injured by the pedagogy of institutional mathematics (paraphrasing). If you have a grasp of algebra and sets this book is an easy read for the curious or mathematically immature. Edit WhatIsDukkha is correct and their suggestion better reflects…

Innumerate is infrequently used but it's analogous to calling someone illiterate. Someone that can't do their sums.

Usually saying someone isn't "mathematically mature" ie able to read and use proofs is what you would want to say.

Re: Ask HN: Are there books for mathematics like Feynman's lectures on physics?

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post #19

When I was studying physics, I found Feynman’s books in the library, read them all, and had the feeling I understand everything! But then I tried to solve some final exams from previous years, and realized the feeling is false. These books gave me great intuition - but they made all the math look deceivingly simple, and as a result it is hard to develop the actual problem solving skills and intuition. I know my exper…

Exactly, Feynman is a seductive writer, and it is a shock how little you can immediately apply after "understanding" a section. Long ago, they used Feynman's books for my introduction to physics, and it was only after struggling with a problem set that we "knew" the material.

http://www.feynmanlectures.caltech.edu/info/exercises.html

Some references to good collections of mathematics problems and solutions would be great for self-study.

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