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Re: Ask HN: How do geniuses think? How do you think?

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This essay by CW Hamming may be of interest. http://www.dartmouth.edu/~matc/MathDrama/reading/Hamming.htm... Also, the work of James Austin, professor at Harvard Medical School on successful research. Marvin Minsky, legendary MIT professor, is also interested in the same subject but I don't have a reference. The "Random Walks of George Polya" is also related to the subject. Stanford math professor who specialized in techniques to solve advanced math problems.

This subject would perhaps make a great forum or separate website.

Re: Ask HN: How do geniuses think? How do you think?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Never seriously… It would be to close to hubris? An early indication of loosing touch with reality? Perhaps indicating the onset of psychosis? Maybe ironically, especially after a less-then-perfect performance ;) Better to let others do the praising? Q: How many people where (by others, not family/friends) publicly described as a "genius"?

I was being pretty rhetorical ;)

I was being aspergery about it.

Re: Ask HN: How do geniuses think? How do you think?

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(Warning: I have hardly slept. A family member is dying. I will likely regret this post. It seemed like a good idea at the time -- or at least a better idea than wallowing in self pity.) Do I think I am a genius? No. But I have been repeatedly told that I "stand out" from the crowd even when the crowd is pretty bright (which usually feels to me like I stick out like a sore thumb :-/ ). Do I think in a way that is dif…

Comments from a stranger probably can't offer much comfort when coping with a dying family member, but I just wanted to reply to thank you for sharing your experience.

Re: Ask HN: How do geniuses think? How do you think?

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You should take a look at Charlie munger. video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L6Cy7UwsRPQ a more detailed overview of what you are looking for: http://www.focusinvestor.com/FocusSeriesPart3.pdf (from charlie munger wiki)

This article is superb in response to the question and also to helping non-business people understand how their disciplines apply to business/business decisionmaking

Re: Ask HN: How do geniuses think? How do you think?

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1) Read Genius, by James Gleick. It's a biography of Feynman which mostly concentrates on his life story (with just enough of his work thrown in to keep my inner physics geek happy) which happens to contain a couple of intriguing hints as to how he thought. Reading between the lines, I suspect he was (or had become) synaesthetic - he describes formulae as having colour, and combining them as entities rather than as series of symbols. He also mentions not understanding how his students comprehended equations if they could not see them this way, so he clearly understood that there was something different going on in his own head.

If that's true, it's a hint as to how he was such a formidable force, because somehow his sensory and proprioceptive apparatus had arranged to map directly to mathematical concepts such that intuitive manipulations which the brain is very, very good at doing anyway (because they are what's needed to drive the body and survive day-to-day) generated useful, valid, mathematical results. Or possibly, given descriptions of how he worked from other people, they generated many more options, whether valid or not, in a shorter time than anyone else, which meant he had a larger sample of possible ideas to pull the best one from.

Whether that translates to other geniuses or not, I don't know, but when people refer to "genius," they are referring to a qualitative difference in thought patterns. Where conventional thought might be verbal, symbolic manipulation, they are somehow using a higher level of abstraction. Finding a mapping between subject-specific concepts (like formulae, or chess positions) and something else your brain does "in the background" would seem to fit that.

2) No. I am not a genius. But I can do some things faster than other people.

Re: Ask HN: How do geniuses think? How do you think?

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(Warning: I have hardly slept. A family member is dying. I will likely regret this post. It seemed like a good idea at the time -- or at least a better idea than wallowing in self pity.) Do I think I am a genius? No. But I have been repeatedly told that I "stand out" from the crowd even when the crowd is pretty bright (which usually feels to me like I stick out like a sore thumb :-/ ). Do I think in a way that is dif…

While all of your thoughts are insightful -- thank you for that -- this one particularly stuck out to me:

"Not getting sucked into group-think is the most valuable skill I have and probably the most offensive thing I do, socially."

I think a lot of the people on this site can relate to that. Thank you.

Re: Ask HN: How do geniuses think? How do you think?

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What I want to know is: how many people on HN would publicly describe themselves as a "genius"?

More like how many legitimate geniuses would actually describe themselves as a "genius"? I would say close to none.

Is one close to none? cperciva is a legitimate genius and describes himself as a genius: http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=228444

Why would you expect otherwise for other geniuses?

Re: Ask HN: How do geniuses think? How do you think?

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Everybody thinks they're highly skilled and above average. A study on hubris in academia recently showed that 95% of all university professors think they are leading their field. (They are not.) Some of my coworkers constantly babble on how super-intelligent and gifted their children are. (I've seen their offspring, they are retarded and borderline autistic.) Listening to self-declared or celebrated "geniuses" on how…

While you are correct that almost everyone believes themselves to be "above average", the HN demographic likely is mostly above average individuals.

Also, not everyone claiming high intelligence is just arrogant or deluded. I'd estimate myself at high intelligence for fairly simple reasons - scoring in the 99th percentile on standardized tests, graduating summa cum laude, etc. I suspect a good number of HN posters have the same (or better) educational achievements I have to base our self-assessments on.

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