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Re: Ask HN: How do you all deal with lack of motivation?

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Visionary, Discipline, Reflection, Release VISIONARY I don't care what random people think of me, I know what my dreams and aspirations are. I intend on getting there regardless if people support me or not. I've been told I couldn't do it many times in my life and that motivates me even further. DISCIPLINE Working out almost everyday forces me to be productive. Motivation is weak and short-sighted, you need disciplin…

How did you learn how to journal? There are countless quality resources for developing a solid workout routine, but I have no idea how to start a journal and every time I try, I have no idea what to write and there is no structure, which makes me give up after some time.

Re: Ask HN: How do you all deal with lack of motivation?

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that seems to be a recurrent problem in the software industry, my suggestion here is to check "discipline beats motivation" ( http://iheartintelligence.com/2016/11/17/discipline-beats-mo... ).

You don't need motivation, just discipline to build habits... everywhere will be a challenge if you lean on motivation.

( i also struggle a lot forcing myself to build discipline... )

Re: Ask HN: How do you all deal with lack of motivation?

#24
Change your setting either with people or places. You're likely sitting at home or always on your computer doing the same thing. That's not helping anyone. If you change your setting it'll also change you personally. I echo everything else related to sleep, exercise, and diet, but besides that just go meet people or work out of different places. It'll work odd wonders because biologically you're predisposed that way.

Re: Ask HN: How do you all deal with lack of motivation?

#25
Work with others.

Find likeminded individuals who can help you get to where you want to go. It's really difficult to generate significant traction on your own.

Doesn't have to be massive, I train once a week with a coach and some other folks and this motivates me to go to the gym for the six other days of the week.

My wife motivates me to do the best for my family. In my hobby I have others who rely on me.

Re: Ask HN: How do you all deal with lack of motivation?

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post #21

Visionary, Discipline, Reflection, Release VISIONARY I don't care what random people think of me, I know what my dreams and aspirations are. I intend on getting there regardless if people support me or not. I've been told I couldn't do it many times in my life and that motivates me even further. DISCIPLINE Working out almost everyday forces me to be productive. Motivation is weak and short-sighted, you need disciplin…

How did you learn how to journal? There are countless quality resources for developing a solid workout routine, but I have no idea how to start a journal and every time I try, I have no idea what to write and there is no structure, which makes me give up after some time.

I use an app called dynalist, I use it to keep track of all my sprint notes

I wrote this sometime last year, but its a general gist of how I do things

http://vincentmtang.com/2017/11/03/making-an-annual-work-sum...

This is how I generally organize myself

http://vincentmtang.com/2018/08/03/how-i-organize-myself/

I quadruple gif scrubbed this here so you can see the big picture. I have some personal information that I didn't really want to share

https://i.imgur.com/KXPjNLr.gif

Each of those little red dots = one week's worth of notes. The notes above the first little red dot is today's notes.

When I expand the list item, those are all my daily sprint logs of things I achieved and major notable things that happened during the day. There all organized with the latest date appearing up top.

I organized my weekly logs (those red dots) the same way. The farther you scroll down the page, the more older weekly snapshots you see

What you see on my left side are all my notes, some are courses, some are project documents. What your seeing on the right is just my journal notes only

some of my notes are journal notes is just what people do with rubber duckies. I talk to myself asking myself things I need to do. Today, this is what my journal notes looked like:

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3PM @codepen

- [screenshot] of work done with a frontend component I made on codepen

1PM @vendor-tag

- Meeting with {{XYZ}} vendor

- {{XYZ}} brought up a great point today about some specific technical {{ABC}} requiring 1000 {{GHI}} stuff.

10AM

- I need to start working on things today. Stop posting things on hackernews

- Time to start driving forward and pushing through things that matter

- What do I need to do today?

- Catchup on {{client}} work

- With with {{dev}} and checking up on his templating work

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I find its extremely helpful for me to write down, the things I have to do everyday. I don't plan very far ahead, I usually know what needs to be done in my head (because I have a vision of what the final project should look like etc).

My notes are generally simple and to the point. I put most of my team communication and specific notes on slack though. Sometimes I'll have more fleshed out journal notes, but those end up becoming blog posts generally.

I have a macro that makes me a timestamp

I wrote about what macros I use here

http://vincentmtang.com/2018/05/31/14-useful-phrase-express-...

I have some more generic posts on how I use dynalist (my notetaking app of choice) here

http://vincentmtang.com/2017/06/24/how-i-use-dynalist-io/

http://vincentmtang.com/2017/08/10/essential-tools-to-enhanc...

http://vincentmtang.com/2017/08/12/why-dynalist-is-the-best-...

https://forum.freecodecamp.org/t/how-i-take-my-notes-through...

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I don't think it matters what noteapp you use honestly, I think its important to stick with a convention and roll with it. You can just do things on a hand-written journal and many people are happy with that

Just so you know I spent literally 9 months deciding on my notetaking workflow before commiting to the one I have right now. I have been using this workflow for about a year now with no issues. I tested every workflow I could possibly imagine, this one works great for me and I'm commiting through with it. You can go through my thought process here, I kind of spammed the forums with my silly ideas. http://talk.dynalist.io/u/Vincent_Tang/activity

I try to jot important notes as things happen. I realize that notetaking is technically a waste of time, so I treat it like I do with email - only do it 3 or 4times a day, unless I'm taking course notes.

Same with hackernews, I realize that posting things on hackernews is a waste of time but I still do it all the same. I just limit myself to 3 or 4 blocks throughout the day and keep it at just that. But it does help me write and come up with ideas I want to blog about later

What's really great is I can go to week15 of this year and say I did {{ABC}} stuff and recount everything I did that week. Its really interesting and puts things in perspective how far along I've come, because I simply can't remember the little things I did.

This also forces me to do

VISIONARY, DISCIPLINE, REFLECTION, RELEASE

- Visionary is just one sentence describing what I like doing. Its building solutions and software to empower business and peoples to do things that matter. I commit this to memory, all my other visionary "mission" statements are derived from this, including all the goals I wish to achieve (e.g. do a triathlon, do a full handstand, do an L-sit, build the app I see myself using everyday, finish this work project).

- Discipline is done through forcing myself to make a daily log everyday. I'm a slight perfectionist so I get anal when I see I forgot to log a days worth of notes. It happens, I just recount it after the fact.

- Reflection is when I also wrap up and condense 7 days worth of notes into that one giant red bulletpoint. But those are just short summaries, I write a blog post every week or 2 and make a commitment to do so. I have 100 drafts on backlog and its growing so I always have something to reflect on, either something recent or months/years ago

- Release happens when shit happens. I just write my frustrations either in the app, or just on a piece of paper. Then I collapse those notes / shred it, etc. I talk to friends about some of the issues I'm facing for advisement, etc. But my notes are always a place I can go to for a sense of relief because it will always be a place where I can vent, this is not so true for friends & family whom I don't want to burden, etc.

A combination of all of these is how I never get imposter syndrome either anymore or get stuck in paralysis analysis.

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Last note is I am not the best writer and I continue to strive to improve. I really enjoy the writings of this person here. http://devonzuegel.com/post/memex-my-personal-knowledge-base

I gained a lot of insights on how to journal and write in general, this person also gets featured on hackernews every now and then

I think its important to make sure you have people you can follow, read, and learn from that are better at you in their respective fields. They don't have to people you know personally, there's tons of great youtubers and writers out there that I really enjoy following.

For me, I drive inspiration from these people. I keep a list of these people on twitter. Its like 100 people from different fields and industries

Also, I want to point out the way I do things here doesn't work for everyone. It requires a specific type of personality IMO. I am naturally introverted, so someone who is extroverted might not benefit as much from this setup.

Re: Ask HN: How do you all deal with lack of motivation?

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post #21

Visionary, Discipline, Reflection, Release VISIONARY I don't care what random people think of me, I know what my dreams and aspirations are. I intend on getting there regardless if people support me or not. I've been told I couldn't do it many times in my life and that motivates me even further. DISCIPLINE Working out almost everyday forces me to be productive. Motivation is weak and short-sighted, you need disciplin…

How did you learn how to journal? There are countless quality resources for developing a solid workout routine, but I have no idea how to start a journal and every time I try, I have no idea what to write and there is no structure, which makes me give up after some time.

I went on a long tangent but let me answer your specifically:

I think its important to constantly experiment to see what works for you. Starting simple is usually best

I would take a moleskin notebook, and just treat 1 page of journalling = 1 day. Start doing this everyday. You'll soon realize how inefficient this is, and move onto something easier (e.g. a computer) for journalling

But you learned an important lesson on journalling, which is the commitment and discipline. I still journal this way, specifically my workout training logs. 3 full days of workout = 1 page in my notebook. E.g. legs/abs (top of page), chest/triceps/shoulders(middle of page), and upperback/biceps (top of page).

Whenever I think of structure, I usually think of universal ways to organize things. There's two ways to organize things

- TIME

- PLACE

When you journal, or write blog posts, this is always TIME-based organization. This mean you organize things chronologically

PLACE is when you take notes for some computer science online course. Its always organized by some folder. You can sort these A-Z, that's also a PLACE parameter too.

Something that is organized by TIME, cannot also be organized by PLACE on the same level. You can organize a PLACE (moleskin notebook) for your journal, and then on a sublevel by TIME(each chronological page is new day)

I hope this makes sense

Re: Ask HN: How do you all deal with lack of motivation?

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I have the freedom to kill myself anytime I want, so if I am not doing that, I might as well do something "useful." Also, it's not like being bored isn't boring, so might as well do something, even if it's equally boring. PS: All the mundane stuff everyone else mentioned is a bare minimum for sure - do exercise, do plan things to do, do eat correctly and get enough sleep, etc.

This comes across as reductive. There is truth here but some sensitivity wouldn't go amiss.

Re: Ask HN: How do you all deal with lack of motivation?

#29
Noopept + caffeine at the beginning of every day, but this isn't golden bullet. So when I am totally unmotivated, this means I have to entertain myself. To do so I read popscience book like Randall Munroe's "What if" or watch sci fi movie. Also meeting with people who you can exchange coding experience and ideas is also great motivator.

Re: Ask HN: How do you all deal with lack of motivation?

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post #21

Visionary, Discipline, Reflection, Release VISIONARY I don't care what random people think of me, I know what my dreams and aspirations are. I intend on getting there regardless if people support me or not. I've been told I couldn't do it many times in my life and that motivates me even further. DISCIPLINE Working out almost everyday forces me to be productive. Motivation is weak and short-sighted, you need disciplin…

How did you learn how to journal? There are countless quality resources for developing a solid workout routine, but I have no idea how to start a journal and every time I try, I have no idea what to write and there is no structure, which makes me give up after some time.

Jim Rohn's perspective on journals: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E-qYHYMdniM

There's also Bullet Journaling, if you're unfamiliar with it. I've used it for a long time and enjoy it.

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